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Old 07-06-2006, 06:37 PM
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i know its something thats been loads of times but im wanting to talk to someone whos done it as i want to know the full ins and outs of the 2wd conversion future plans for my drifty shitter sierra
Old 07-06-2006, 06:49 PM
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Old 07-06-2006, 06:58 PM
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cheers mate already been on that site but 4x4 and 2wd conversions are slightly different i think
Old 07-06-2006, 07:14 PM
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fuck that, save your money and bin it off for an ex-police Omega MV6, like the one i poste up for sale on driftworks for 600quid earlier

better everything, no grief, no trouble.
Old 07-06-2006, 07:33 PM
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im a ford man though steve otherwise i would of just gone out and bought an s body
Old 07-06-2006, 07:49 PM
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You crazy man. If we talking S-body money surely youd ve got summat a lot better than that Sierra
Old 07-06-2006, 08:13 PM
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cheap hobbie to me mate if i prang a sierra its not a problem as there ten a penny hence why i aint been out and dropped an sx or liner or similar. trampdrift cheap and cheerful as for a 24v conversion a whole donor granny can be had for Ł300 easy so its not like big money
Old 07-06-2006, 08:18 PM
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Yeah, i guess if its only gonna cost ya 600quid and you want a Ford then fair play.

Jus the way you said about couldve bought an S-body made me think you was on about spending (working, not a rusty heap, not fudges old one ) S-body money
Old 07-06-2006, 08:26 PM
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lol no i gotta keep it real for the ford boys
Old 07-06-2006, 09:22 PM
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I done it last Oct Well easy
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help me out then matey give me a full run down start to finsh
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only main concern is your gerbox, they don't do a RWD box with v6 bellhousing (well, they did but its really rare)

2 choices, get some kind of adapter for a T5 box, or build a RWD mt75 by swapping the bits from a 4x4 v6 and a 2wd DOHC box. any competent gearbox place can do this.

also bernie (www.gearboxman.co.uk) sells the boxes already done for kitcar owners.

the rest is the same as the XR4x4 conversion, just easier
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Originally Posted by cossiecrew
help me out then matey give me a full run down start to finsh
Well here are a few threads....

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...asc&highlight=

http://www.interford.co.uk/forums/sh...threadid=45595

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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
only main concern is your gerbox, they don't do a RWD box with v6 bellhousing (well, they did but its really rare)
err... so what gearbox do xr4i's and capri 2.8 have in them?
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crapy type 9 mate
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Default Re: anyone put a 24v into a rwd sierra?

Originally Posted by cossiecrew
i know its something thats been loads of times but im wanting to talk to someone whos done it as i want to know the full ins and outs of the 2wd conversion future plans for my drifty shitter sierra
you know what you need !! theres a man in your town who you know who does it !!!
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find a 24 granny
find a sierra
pull the engine out the the 24 complete with crossmember
get a rwd mt75 box
bolt them together
bolt the whole lot into the sierra
wire it up as per mob's site
job jobbed
or
get fitz to wire it up for you

that said, i've seen him do a drive in and drive out (ok, it was a really rushed job so it didn't look all that) in about 90 minutes from going onto the ramp with a dohc to coming off the ramp (under it's own power) with a 24V
Old 09-06-2006, 03:39 PM
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doh, i wouldnt use a type9 with 200lb/ft!
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I had a type9 on my twin turbo v6(250 bhp) xr4i,it shat itself after 1000 miles and stripped the mainshaft.
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the fact it lasted that long is a shock to me
Old 09-06-2006, 04:09 PM
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Which is the rare RWD V6 box then? The Capri one? I saw a manual Granny on eBay the other day

Was the one that looks like a bulbous Sierra tho and not a Cossie.
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The rare box is a proper ford 2wd mt75 that found it way into a few cars.
In my opinion the mt75 is the best box to use as thats the one ford used for a 2wd escort cossie that was 24v cossie powered and yes it was a one off. Failing that i have the bellhousing for the t5 box to fit.....
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thought you had a cheap 24v mark oops but you sold it
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I can always get another ...............................
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What about a Transit MT75? Are they RWD?
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theyre 2 litres, different bellhousing.
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you can't use the later boxes as they have different bits on them which don't fit (the selector sticks out of the top rather than the back) so what you need to do is find an xr4x4 box, find a dohc box (cheap as proverbial chips) take the front end of the V6 and bolt it to the back end of the dohc box
swap the input shaft over as well and job jobbed, local gearbox places charges Ł40 to do that, with a rebuild and the longer fifth gear conversion plus a rebuild with the quiafe bits inside it was only Ł550 all in, with new bearings and oils and etc
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
doh, i wouldnt use a type9 with 200lb/ft!
why not? 2 years i ran one with 215 lb/lf never had any problems

the type 9's ratios are far better than the mt75
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Better off with a rebuilt type-9 imo
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MWF it depends how hard you drive, I know a guy who drives like a cunt with a stock 24v in and has blown 5 type 9s so far.

just goto Capri forums and see what they say about the type 9

I had a 2.8 capri with a type 9 and it was shit with a 130 bhp of 2.8 boat anker power.

you need the case top ally thing and I believe a added oil way.

If you drive like a Gay lord AKA Doh you will be fine with T9
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Wasn't saying a standard type-9 dude. Was suggesting having one built up to spec.
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you can get stronger casing from what i remembre, but they tend to need better bearings or the like because they tend to kill the shafts rathee than the gears

and yes, the type 9 ratio's are miles better than the mt75's
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dojj
mt75 strong nnnaaaaa and how many times ya been down and helped me rebuild mine?
im going auto myself, yeah the car might be automatic but i still have to be there!

im told dome can rebuild a type 9 to take the same loads as the mt75!

tony
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The P100 that won GT drift Battle ran RWD and V6 Cossie power, Irish fella with big balls as I remember
Old 17-06-2006, 03:00 PM
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dont suppose youve got any videos have you mate i like the sound of the p100 driftin
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Originally Posted by Mr C
The P100 that won GT drift Battle ran RWD and V6 Cossie power, Irish fella with big balls as I remember
perhaps thats why he had to use the P100 then

tony, i'm looking to 24 the twinkly now, but i want to keep the auto box rather than go manual (it's easier for me ) but all i need is to find a prop, easier to find a sierra auto prop than it is to find a 2.3 manual flywheel
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dojj
i had owains auto prop so im sorted but they should be easy to find!!
worth looking at the mk3 cortina props as they are shorter and dont have the doughnut!! ow and type 5 gearbox flanges fits type9 and auto box!!

im on to summit really good with these A4DLE box's i can build one to take more power and have a mappable ecu to run it!! can have paddle gear change with 5 or 6 speeds, clever stuff!!!!
with a high stall converter it should be faster than manual to

the xr4i auto should be running very soon, doing the loom now!!

tony
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but the doughnut is there to stop the tranny shunt isn't it?
would not having one there be detrimental to the life of the drive train?

is it just the loom left on the 4i then?
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finally found a pic of the P100, not pretty, guess thats why it didnt get huge press after the win, poor jap boys got beat by that
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