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Old 03-06-2006, 09:37 AM
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I thought i had a shagged starter as the reason it wouldnt start so have bougt one from ebay just to check and it still doesnt start, the starter is different tho,

the car just turns over and over , and stinks of fuel, anyone got any suggestions on things i can check

aslo here is a piccie of what i have just fitted, is this an RS turbo starter? as my old one is different
Old 03-06-2006, 09:48 AM
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firstly,

are you getting a spark Gra?
Old 03-06-2006, 09:49 AM
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spark plugs are covered in petrol
Old 03-06-2006, 09:50 AM
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I'm no mechanic, but mehtinks you have a leak
Old 03-06-2006, 09:50 AM
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obviously the fuel is getting there but there's no spark
Old 03-06-2006, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Westy
firstly,

are you getting a spark Gra?
its a starting problem not a runnig !!!

No firstly can you hear it crank click in the solinod
no then link i wire to the solinod and touch the battery does it the if yes could be the imobilisor
then come back hear if it ant !!
Old 03-06-2006, 09:56 AM
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I was asking Gra if it got a spark, not you

as for immobiliser, then thats a good bet too.. or dizzy

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Old 03-06-2006, 09:57 AM
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car doesnt have any alarm or imboliser, checked and cleaned all plugs, me thinks its not getting a spark, whats an easy way to confirm if its getting a spark?
Old 03-06-2006, 09:59 AM
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Take a plug out at a time and hold it near the engine, then crank it over, looking for a spark on all the plugs

obviously leaving the lead on
Old 03-06-2006, 10:06 AM
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yeah already tried that and didnt get any spark so thought i was doing summit wrong, soo deffo no spark then, how do i sort that
Old 03-06-2006, 10:07 AM
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So it'll be your either a lead or the dizzy
Old 03-06-2006, 10:09 AM
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I'd start by replacing dizzy cap and rotor arm if that still doesn't work you may need new leads or plugs. You got any you can try on the car?
Old 03-06-2006, 10:12 AM
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cancel that, all plugs now getting a spark and its still not starting but fookin stinks of petrol tho
Old 03-06-2006, 10:24 AM
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So you've got spark? right. Timing?? Daft as it sounds you could try tow starting it to see if it will encourage it along a bit
Old 03-06-2006, 11:35 AM
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Timing shouldbe fine as it was running fine then all of a sudden wouldnt start, may try to push up my drive or summit but on my own at mo so cant really take it for a push start, plus it is SORN, so not MOT, etc etc
Old 03-06-2006, 11:39 AM
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Gra -

I got a cap here.. noit upto much at the mo, so if you want a hand or anything I can pop round for 10-15mins, to help check for spark etc?
Old 03-06-2006, 11:40 AM
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main ht lead from coil maybe?
Old 03-06-2006, 11:41 AM
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spark is fine, deffo not the leads,spark plugs dizzy etc
Old 03-06-2006, 12:49 PM
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me totally stumped,
Could it be just a case of a flooded engine? and if so whats the procedure for sorting that as I have left the car for over a week and it had no effect
Old 03-06-2006, 12:56 PM
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Check the hard plastic pipe that goes from th eback left breather filter off the rocker cover round the back and down to th emetering head if this has any leaks in it the car will not start
Old 03-06-2006, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Check the hard plastic pipe that goes from th eback left breather filter off the rocker cover round the back and down to th emetering head if this has any leaks in it the car will not start
cheers, have checked that its ok, bloody cars,
Old 03-06-2006, 02:14 PM
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Hi mate has the car been stood for a long time?


If so the (canny remember the name of it) fuel flap in the meterhead maybe stuck open and the needle/pin maybe stuck fully open and be overfueling and spoiling the plugs....Same thing happened to me....

Sorry for the shit terms its been such along time since ihave worked on an rst i have forgotten......
Old 03-06-2006, 02:17 PM
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What about the pipe that goes from under the throttle body to behind the inlet fannimold. Mine popped off and would not restart
Old 03-06-2006, 02:49 PM
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This is going to sound really stupid, but just check the battery leads and terminals are all really clean and the connections are really tight. I had a problem with my Porsche 944 Turbo where it wouldn't keep running but would turn over and that's all it was in the end. Like I say, it sounds totally stupid, but it worked for me, and it's another thing to try however daft it seems.

And yes, it probably is flooded, so leave it for a bit before trying it again. The same thing again happened with the Porsche.
Old 03-06-2006, 06:05 PM
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cheers good point, even tho the battery seems ok, i am just gonna try another one, gotta charge the fooker tho
Old 03-06-2006, 06:11 PM
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Gra Another stupid question have you carried any work out on it i.e had any sensors on the back disconnected ? could be that ? reconnected incorrectly ?



Regards Doug .
Old 03-06-2006, 06:27 PM
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I had a similar problem when i put the turbo motor in my xr2, was sparking fine, triple checked the timing and it stank of fuel.

i left it a while, warmed the plugs in the oven (lol), disconnected the cold start and then it fired up first time. i think like you say gra with switching the ignition on and off constantly, the fuel pump primed so many times it was just flooded.
Old 03-06-2006, 09:42 PM
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no, havent done anything work on it, really, basically say 1mnth ago i dusted it off after nearly 1yr not used, and did a bit of priming getting ready to finish it off etc, got it running fine no probs, starting every week, then for no reason last week it just wouldnt start, but my starter was smoking so figured it was constantly engaged and got a cheap one from ebay to troubleshoot but still no good, lol,
Old 04-06-2006, 10:22 AM
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just tried another battery, and didnt make any difference at all
i reackon it must be flooded, is it true if i keep the acelarator pressed to the floor it clears the fuel?
Old 04-06-2006, 10:50 AM
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Do you have an alloy intercooler on the car?

I once had the old style pace intercooler on my car and due to the design it sat on the front crossmember.

The problem was the two green wires to the coil go across here so after a few months the wires wore through and i could no longer get a spark!!!

Might be worth checking if you do have one fitted
Old 04-06-2006, 11:14 AM
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discounted cold start warmed the plugs and it starts XR-RS your a star

big thanxs to everyone who helped tho thank you all very much
Old 04-06-2006, 11:16 AM
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good stuff
Old 04-06-2006, 11:34 AM
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