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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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a few weeks ago, i welded up the 7.5" diff on the back of this (thanks to paddy for the photo )



diff now looks like this inside.



well i took it out for the 1st time since doing it last night to the Berks meet so was a little anxious as to how it would drive and if it could survive some abuse

but i needn't have worried as it's excellent you feel it during low speed tight turns as the inside wheel kind of grabs and you need more power to move as the tyres scrubs across the road but that's a small percentage of driving time.

but it's mostly good things. you get excellent grip from a standing start, whether in a straight line traffic light grand prix or sliding sideways out of a t-junction, and superb grip in corners and roundabouts with no hint of it increasing a tendency to understeer.

i've yet to see how it affects tyre wear, but so far i have only seen positives from doing it and like steve says i wish i had done it years ago.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Seeeeee, told you so

My lovely 50quid 24valve Senator i bought at 1pm today will have a welded diff by end of tonight too, then its time to diff it up Senator style
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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nick why have done this exactly i know ive asked before but bin to sleep since then
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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hey up! welding the diffs! i had a 24valve x police manual senator,
the mrs called it MOOSE, cars used to fly out the way on motorways
used to fry tyre,only the one mind, should of welded it up...
got sorted on ccd now nick
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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jaycos done it because i bust my lsd and was too tight to buy another and fancied having a go with it while i'm still young
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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doesnt it keep both wheels rotating at exactly the same speed making it easyer and more controlable to get the back out,

and issnt it stronger??
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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FORIEGN COSIE HOW COME YOUR CAR IS LHD??are you still sellin??bet the back end is easy to flick out on a roundybout?
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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COSSIE CALmy car is LHD because it was built like that. it was bought and built in germany where i lived for 4 years. doen't make a lot of difference on UK roads to be honest, and in some cases like coming out of left hand bends it makes it easier to overtake because you can see up the inside.

yes, still selling. Ł4k ono

zippyobrien yes, both wheeels always turn at the same speed so it makes it very predictable to slide. and yes, how i've welded it makes it much stronger than an original viscous diff where the weak links are the small gears that you can just about see in the top and bottom of the cage in the middle of the diff. very good for launches
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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K WELL STILL FINKIN ABOUT IT.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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I wonder if I can do that with my mini

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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
I wonder if I can do that with my mini

must admit, i wanna try drive a FWD with the diff welded up to see how wildly bad it will be
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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I bet its not *that* bad...


but no one seems to know!

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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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a la d up this way with a turbo civic was going to go down the route until he realised every corner the car would hop about, would it not be easyer to understeer aswell?

MB.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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what is your daily driver?

i would say that if you drive in a town or city a lot, then don't do it because the slow speed scrubbing in right angled turns is not nice. but country roads, duals and motorways is fine.

i can imagine that things like engine mounts may not last as long, maybe propshaft joints, driveshafts and definitely tyres will be worn faster
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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i had a welded diff in a mini i used for saloon stock racing,but that was on a loose surface,soil, mud ect . when used on the road it was great in a straight line but try going round a corner and it shook and juddered,undriveable.lol
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Does welding your diff make it stronger and less prone to breaking if launching hard? Sorry if that sounds like a dumb question but if you dont know you dont fine out
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
how i've welded it makes it much stronger than an original viscous diff where the weak links are the small gears that you can just about see in the top and bottom of the cage in the middle of the diff. very good for launches
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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who would/should i take a diff to if i wanted it welded? I dont know anyone that would do it?
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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i would do it if you could bring it off the car to basingstoke and drained and cleaned of oil. only takes about half an hour.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Leave it with me Nick
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