M3 CSL..??
26-04-2006, 09:45 AM
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M3 CSL..??
Is there a hell of alot of difference between this and the standard M3 coupe.? i know the carbon fibre roof and paddle shift are different. but do they drive more like a track car than a fast road car..?? 
26-04-2006, 09:47 AM
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different induction system, different exh
lighter alloys (7kgs a wheel apperently
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different mapping, more responsive/less smooth round town
different suspension settings
bascially its a trackday m3
lighter alloys (7kgs a wheel apperently
)different mapping, more responsive/less smooth round town
different suspension settings
bascially its a trackday m3
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26-04-2006, 10:00 AM
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so would i ryan but someone owes us 15k at moment and basically i can buy his CSL for 20k its only a year old, hes had it de-resticted and stuff and i know its seen a few trackdays. Not sure its something i would want the other half driving 
its only a year old, hes had it de-resticted and stuff and i know its seen a few trackdays. Not sure its something i would want the other half driving
26-04-2006, 10:09 AM
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Ryan im going to see it ,BMW offered him 34k to buy it back but told him yesterday they need to shift 2 others before they will take his.I want to buy it and sell it on but i cant see me ever selling it thats the only thing putting me off,at the moment id rather put the 15k he owes to use somewhere else
26-04-2006, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
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That's a 40k car for half price!
26-04-2006, 10:11 AM
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cheapest one i have seen with good spec and ap brakes ect is 36k
garath lloyd has one and he has just uprated the front brakes on his as they not up to the job,
he said it was a massive difference in the drive fromt he standard m3 to the csl model,
garath lloyd has one and he has just uprated the front brakes on his as they not up to the job,
he said it was a massive difference in the drive fromt he standard m3 to the csl model,
26-04-2006, 10:21 AM
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well im gonna go look at it,dont get me wrong id love to have it but 15k is more important to behonest,but the temptation to buy it and drive it for 6 months then flog it is quite high
26-04-2006, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonp
so would i ryan but someone owes us 15k at moment and basically i can buy his CSL for 20k its only a year old, hes had it de-resticted and stuff and i know its seen a few trackdays. Not sure its something i would want the other half driving
its only a year old, hes had it de-resticted and stuff and i know its seen a few trackdays. Not sure its something i would want the other half driving
26-04-2006, 10:22 AM
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CSL for 20k
Either thats bullshit
or you are a fucking retard!!
buy it!
or give me the details pls and ill buy it tomorrow AND give you a grand
Either thats bullshit
or you are a fucking retard!!
buy it!
or give me the details pls and ill buy it tomorrow AND give you a grand
26-04-2006, 10:30 AM
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dave you would have to buy it for 35k not 20k 
i still need the 15k at some point this year RETARD 
tell you dont run a buisness 
Thats only reason its cheap,if i dont buy i will put it on here for sale for 35k as he said he needs it gone.Then he can pay me
i still need the 15k at some point this year RETARD tell you dont run a buisness Thats only reason its cheap,if i dont buy i will put it on here for sale for 35k as he said he needs it gone.Then he can pay me
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26-04-2006, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by The Usual Suspect
buy it enjoy it for a bit and sell it on at a garunteed profit, thats called a sure thing your nutz if u dont
26-04-2006, 12:10 PM
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ryan if your interested mate your more than welcome to come along will let you no when he lives out near burley in the new forest.
Agree with lee its not gauranteed i would sell it for 35k after 6 months,they are floating around at that price now,and the new 3 series comes out next year
will let you no when he lives out near burley in the new forest.Agree with lee its not gauranteed i would sell it for 35k after 6 months,they are floating around at that price now,and the new 3 series comes out next year
27-04-2006, 10:16 AM
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M3 vs CSL = totally different driving experience, they're not even close. I've had both (well still have the CSL) and have used both extensively on road and track.
Differences at a glance
CSL is around 150kg lighter*, including much lower CoG (CF roof helps a lot)
CSL has around 17bhp more (thanks to huge induction kit, cams, ports, engine management)
CSL has totally different suspension
CSL has quicker steering rack
CSL has bigger front discs (most people fit AP 356mm + 6 pots though)
CSL has reprogrammed (more aggressive) software for the sequential shifter.
CSL has much better seats
* weight loss from stripped interior, extensive CF bodywork, SMC bodywork, thinner glass etc..etc (they could have gone much further though!)
Then there's the cosmetics.
Lovely jubbly.
Differences at a glance
CSL is around 150kg lighter*, including much lower CoG (CF roof helps a lot)
CSL has around 17bhp more (thanks to huge induction kit, cams, ports, engine management)
CSL has totally different suspension
CSL has quicker steering rack
CSL has bigger front discs (most people fit AP 356mm + 6 pots though)
CSL has reprogrammed (more aggressive) software for the sequential shifter.
CSL has much better seats
* weight loss from stripped interior, extensive CF bodywork, SMC bodywork, thinner glass etc..etc (they could have gone much further though!)
Then there's the cosmetics.
Lovely jubbly.
27-04-2006, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CSLMan
M3 vs CSL = totally different driving experience, they're not even close. I've had both (well still have the CSL) and have used both extensively on road and track.
Differences at a glance
CSL is around 150kg lighter*, including much lower CoG (CF roof helps a lot)
CSL has around 17bhp more (thanks to huge induction kit, cams, ports, engine management)
CSL has totally different suspension
CSL has quicker steering rack
CSL has bigger front discs (most people fit AP 356mm + 6 pots though)
CSL has reprogrammed (more aggressive) software for the sequential shifter.
CSL has much better seats
* weight loss from stripped interior, extensive CF bodywork, SMC bodywork, thinner glass etc..etc (they could have gone much further though!)
Then there's the cosmetics.
Lovely jubbly.
Differences at a glance
CSL is around 150kg lighter*, including much lower CoG (CF roof helps a lot)
CSL has around 17bhp more (thanks to huge induction kit, cams, ports, engine management)
CSL has totally different suspension
CSL has quicker steering rack
CSL has bigger front discs (most people fit AP 356mm + 6 pots though)
CSL has reprogrammed (more aggressive) software for the sequential shifter.
CSL has much better seats
* weight loss from stripped interior, extensive CF bodywork, SMC bodywork, thinner glass etc..etc (they could have gone much further though!)
Then there's the cosmetics.
Lovely jubbly.
27-04-2006, 01:16 PM
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My boss drives one of these. He has said there is also a reported problem with the clutches on the csl's, his car is in for the second time to get another clutch, it will be his third within 20000 miles. This is apparently a known fault on the car, it has been reported to BMW who have said they are going to stop changeing clutches under warranty soon untill they have found a fix to why the clutch keeps giving out. Boss has said he thinks it may be a software related issue on the gearbox, with the clutch not adjusting itself as it wears. CSL Man have you had any problems with yours yet?
27-04-2006, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by CSLMan
CSL has bigger front discs (most people fit AP 356mm + 6 pots though)
do they crop up on ebay for pennies like old supercharger
