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Old 24-04-2006, 04:34 PM
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Need a bit of info troops, my stg3 saff was never excellent on fuel but recently its got right bad, going about town not to hard, just a couple of bursts here and there i got 18 mile to a tenner. Now its not long been set up ( five weeks or so ) but ive recently changed my turbo, and put a new actuator on with an increase in boost of about 5 or 6 psi, the car runs great but my fuel consumpsion is terrible, i just started it the other day letting it tic over, then gave it a few revs and the kerb at my exhaust was covered in black soot, im gony get it set up again, but just wondering if its gony need any new parts or just tweeked a bit, any help or info apreciated

Old 24-04-2006, 04:35 PM
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Phone AVA jonny.
Old 24-04-2006, 04:36 PM
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is it a moonstone saff with black wheels per chance , if so nice car, seen it about a couple of times.
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sounds like the water temp sensor is fooked.ggr has got them on sale for a tenner,
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Originally Posted by ronf42
is it a moonstone saff with black wheels per chance , if so nice car, seen it about a couple of times.

No mate that was ma muckers ( rabmc ) from on here, its mercury grey with 17" rondells
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Originally Posted by cossiegreg1
sounds like the water temp sensor is fooked.ggr has got them on sale for a tenner,

In what way does this affect your fuel consumption mate?
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seen a saff monday night last week possibly a G plate was that it heading back form Irvine towards the costa del saltycoats, looks like it had a play with a motor from the volvo roundabout to pennyburn roundabout
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not sure mate, maybe, mines an f plate tho
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canny quite remember, if you see a 53 plate fiesta flash you it will be me!
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Sound mate, anybody else on the fuel issue?
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I`ve now changed my temp switch and my cars still the same, i havent drove alot of miles as i`ve been doing alot of other things to it, is there anything else off the top of anyones head that it can be


I no i need to see a tuner or rolling road but its to try and save my self from doing that till i reall need to

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you changed turbo? to a bigger one???

and increased boost

after you had it setup????


if so, i'm sorry but thats asking for a DEAD engine

you u wasted your money getting setup
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Explain why i wasted my money getting it set up it needed it so i got it, i was then told ( by the tuner) i would benifit from a larger turbo, so i got one, my car ran fine for at least a few hundred miles then started over fueling, and also explain why thats SO bad its asking for a dead engine, i have stopped using it so its not as if it will get bore wash or that. Im just trying to find out if i can sort it my self before taking it to the tuner again instead of ( as you put it ) wasting my money
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
Explain why i wasted my money getting it set up it needed it so i got it, i was then told ( by the tuner) i would benifit from a larger turbo, so i got one, my car ran fine for at least a few hundred miles then started over fueling, and also explain why thats SO bad its asking for a dead engine, i have stopped using it so its not as if it will get bore wash or that. Im just trying to find out if i can sort it my self before taking it to the tuner again instead of ( as you put it ) wasting my money
are you sure it wont cause bore wash????

and yes having a car setup for a certain turbo then changing it, WILL cause the car to run LEAN (dead engine) so yes it would have been better to get it setup with new turbo

or, done as you did and get it setup, then fit new turbo, then get the correct chip for the new setup and get it setup again.


any how why do i care, it's n iot my engine your gonna be damaging everytime the engine runs, and ask any GOOD tuner, if running a engine with the wrong chip will cause any perminant damage


happy motoring
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well said spiky
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NUTTIN RILLA

Howdy mate, same probs on my S1 buddy. Had it at AVA last month and its going back next month once i remember to book it in

My metering head and fuelling gear is coming out and getting some mods done to combat this prob mate, their your best bet
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18 miles on Ł10

Sod that, thats about 7.5mpg.

Running mine in at the moment and just got 27mpg

Steve.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
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Explain why i wasted my money getting it set up it needed it so i got it, i was then told ( by the tuner) i would benifit from a larger turbo, so i got one, my car ran fine for at least a few hundred miles then started over fueling, and also explain why thats SO bad its asking for a dead engine, i have stopped using it so its not as if it will get bore wash or that. Im just trying to find out if i can sort it my self before taking it to the tuner again instead of ( as you put it ) wasting my money
are you sure it wont cause bore wash????

and yes having a car setup for a certain turbo then changing it, WILL cause the car to run LEAN (dead engine) so yes it would have been better to get it setup with new turbo

or, done as you did and get it setup, then fit new turbo, then get the correct chip for the new setup and get it setup again.


any how why do i care, it's n iot my engine your gonna be damaging everytime the engine runs, and ask any GOOD tuner, if running a engine with the wrong chip will cause any perminant damage


happy motoring
My car isnt running lean mate, its running rich but reading between your line`s im taking it you think i should need a new chip and a set up?
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You'll need another chip or a remap jonny.
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Cheers kev, i had that thought mate but im just looking for opinions just incase there was a more obvious thing


how`s your car anyway?
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lean or rich mate, you need a remap or something as a the chip is for a different turbo on your car and thats asking for trouble
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
Cheers kev, i had that thought mate but im just looking for opinions just incase there was a more obvious thing


how`s your car anyway?
Not too bad thanks jonny,getting the rear end polybushed tomorrow night plus new steering column bushes.
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have you had your cO checked and adjusted? mine was doin about 30mile to Ł10 and cO was through the roof, had it adjusted and it was a lot better, is your mixture screw in your ecu ok? cos itl keep going back up if its fooked, i learnt this from mine also lol

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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
Cheers kev, i had that thought mate but im just looking for opinions just incase there was a more obvious thing


how`s your car anyway?
Not too bad thanks jonny,getting the rear end polybushed tomorrow night plus new stering column bushes.

Good stuff mate, i just changed the whole back end of my car, beam, arms, anti roll bar all with brand new polly bushes on everything, bit of pain but its done now, havent had the chance to reep the rewards tho still i shall get the fueling sorted out and then find out
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Originally Posted by Dicko
have you had your cO checked and adjusted? mine was doin about 30mile to Ł10 and cO was through the roof, had it adjusted and it was a lot better, is your mixture screw in your ecu ok? cos itl keep going back up if its fooked, i learnt this from mine also lol


Thanks alot mate, im just gony get it to the rollers and see if they can find it, hopefully it will be something like that
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map sensor or fuel presure to high or blocked fuel return
Old 14-06-2006, 09:11 PM
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air charge sensor could have gone open circuit that would make it fuel max all the time.
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Originally Posted by Ian M
air charge sensor could have gone open circuit that would make it fuel max all the time.
Where abouts is that mate, how can i tell?


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its the brown sensor on the side of the plenum you can check it with a multimeter.
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Originally Posted by Ian M
its the brown sensor on the side of the plenum you can check it with a multimeter.

Thanks ian i shall check that tommorow mate
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