Davie

Hello all.

I'm after a wee something as a second car with a budget of £5k.

Initial thoughts are:

Saff Cossie - No Biased
Classic Impreza
Supra
Mitsi GTO TT

As you may have guessed, it has to be turbo.

TIFF

It would be out of the Cossie and the Scooby from that list.......

Cossie everytime

Just remember to hold some money back so that if anything does go wrong you can sort it.

Also if you get a Cossie...get it set-up as soon as you have it to make sure the fueling ect is ok

Davie

Pros for saff:
Not many well cared for ones
It's an Icon!
it's a cossie.

Cons for saff:
Reliability
Listening for every little rattle thinking th engine is about to pop
Rust
Rust

Pros for impreza
Reliability
Sound of the engine (c'mon you can't knock it)

Cons
they are EVERYWHERE
None really that haven't been Max'd up.
Chocolate gearboxes

Add / correct if wrong

TIFF

TBH mate, the Impeza engine is NORT a strong point at all

For the money you have you should be able to get a recently rebuilt Cossie which would be good for alot of miles--60k plus if not thrashed

Davie

Hmm. Paranoia would prevail i think...

What about skyline, R33 GTS?

TIFF

dont know much about them tbh

E30 M3

Davie

Is that the old left hooker one?

TIFF

Oh yes

Not the fastest car in the world but one hell of a fun one to drive, and they handle VERY VERY well

Look awesome to

Oranoco

Cossie everytime . Only good use for an Impreza is for feeding my RS's

Davie

LOL.

I really want the cossy. But their reliability scares the life out of me.

I want to use it for more than i break it.

Csm

wouldnt go for chips in a scooby tbh

power,parts,fault finding ,cossie everytime

just had the guys at ava (glasgow) play with my cossie today and top stuff from them ,cured my fueling side of things all over and car runs better than ever than it has done ,missfire at top end has gone and drives nicer low down at town speeds aswell

even better i will have less trips to buy optimax now

TIFF

I have had 3 Cosowrths all in all, and i have had NO reliability problems with any of them.

If you get one, change all the sensors and give it a GOOD service, the service it every 3-4k mile and you will be fine mate

Davie

I'm favouring the cossy.

WRT to AVA, i've heard some right horror stories about em. But then you only hear the bad ones eh.

TIFF. When you say sensors, what exactly should be changed, you talking lambda and AFM etc?

I take it if i took the car to AVA for example and said 'change all the sensors', they would know what i'm on about?

And thats another worry i have, what if i rolling road it and the thing throws a rod?

Is it a bit of a falacy that jap cars are more reliable?

D

Csm

jap cars aint reliable ,plenty peeps i know in my area have em and all either broken just now or been broken allready in there few months of ownership

had my cossie a year and never let me down !!!

changed the usual suspects for reliability ,dizzy cap/arm ,phase sensor ,numerous other sensors for peace of mind and service it every 3-4k and its spot on

Davie

Coolio.

So. What kind of outlay am i looking at of i buy the saph and a service / sensors??

LEE-RS

ask graham goodes how reliable the jap stuff is

tregmatt

iTrader: (3)

gt 2 be a cossie all time

Benn 304R

Cossie, then take it to karl for a stg 1 set up, cant get better than that tbh.
Will be reliable if you look after it properly.

fordsportjay

iTrader: (6)

ive had about 6/7 subarus,3 gto twin turbos,god knows how many cossies.

not had supra.

subarus are ok,but really nothing special and expensive when they go wrong.

gto not as quick as you would think,and soooooooooo expensive for parts

cossie-never had one let go on me and cheaper to repair than the others and much more tuneable.

has to be a cossie-slightly biased as i sell them also!!!!
but i also drive one

e30 m3 good car
nissan pulsar gtir dont touch with barge pole
lancia integrale unreliable

all my opinion only

_DAN_

Cossie or impreza for me other two are shit

A.Moore

As someone said Subarus aren't as 'solid' engine wise.I have a WRX MY03 and the big end on number 4 has failed!! It had only done 34K They can be reliable but mine was originally owned by Subaru UK LTD and was Prodrives development car for the the PPP (Prodrive Performance Pack) guess it had a hard life I get mine back next weekend with a fully rebuilt engine.New crank,competition big end bearings,new mains, fully balanced rods, fresh bores,oversize new pistons/rings, fully overhauled/cleaned heads, all genuine Subaru parts.Need to run it in for 1000 miles also.
Cossies have a solid crank/bottom end, whereas the Subaru can have big end failure due to det alone!! As said though, if set up correctly they can be very very reliable but it's the same with the cossie.

Mr Whippy

If you know where to look you can get damn fine skyline GTR for £5k.....

A.Moore

Thought i'd post a pic of mine, i've not seen it for 6 weeks!!

notSteveS2

Subarus are poo... IMO....

Choc pistons and boxes (as sed)

id say cossie mate... i think u cud probably get a nice EVO 6 for that money tho cant u???


can i ask wots wrong with pulsars??? never owned 1 but i think quite a nice car and was thinkin bout goin down that route!

Rich_w

If its a second car, are you planning on doing Track Days? If so, then £5K will get you a tidy Pug GTI or similar.

If you must have a turbo theres 200sx's to consider. E36 M3s are near that price range now as well.

What exactly do you want out of this "toy" ?

errr No.

notSteveS2

ohhhhh.... ok....

no need to b sarcastic... was more of a question than a statement!!!!!!!!

Davie

Now now. Play nice.

I may do some track days, but to be fait this is going to be something for me to literally play with up to and below the legal limit (ahem). you know what i mean.

I think i'm gonna stick with the cossy. I'll keep you posted.

Red16

theres a lad selling a 400bhp Sapphy in the cars for sale section of this site, £4700

Mr Brannen

nice Evo 6 for 5 grand , point one out please matey

notSteveS2

it was more a question than a statment...

look...

i think u cud probably get a nice EVO 6 for that money tho cant u???

see the bit where i say cant u???

as i havent looked to buy 1!

89xr2

Leave the poor lad alone. You could get a nice evo 2/3 for that money.

notSteveS2

ok kool... well id prefer a evo 3 than a shitty scooby!!!!!!!!!!!

Snowy_Astra

I'd go for an old school scoob, GTO is totally our of the question, not keen on the older supras (am guessing its an old model for £5k), and a saff, well, its between the saff and scoob i'd say

Nik_W

I doubt a modern Supra Turbo can be had for £5k, they are holding their money quite well. EVO 6s are fetching between £10k-£15k at the moment. A very tidy Saph (2WD) is probably you best bet. I had 3 inthe space of 3 years and apart from a couple of fooked clutches, I had no major problems. Cossies are very easy to work on, I repaired every problem I had and went from stage 1 to stage 3 in a weekend including uprating the head gasket. The only thing I had to do was to visit Harvey Gibbs to make sure I had set it up right, and it was good. I hammered the hell out of that thing with about 350bhp on tap and no problems.