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Old 12-04-2006, 10:04 PM
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[quote="JjCoDeX75"] and then proceeded to have my arse handed to me by him!! DOH!

Ha Ha Haa!!
So,the moral here,is ,if you want your arse handing to you........Go find a Lotus Carlton !!
Old 12-04-2006, 10:09 PM
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[quote="JjCoDeX75"]

Don't get me wrong, I love the Carlton, but the new BMW M5 has evolved into something that the Carlton simply couldnt live with at any time!

CheeRS

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1: Don't you beleive it !!
And 2: I should think it has 'evolved' in 13 years !!
Old 12-04-2006, 10:27 PM
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A supercar is an object that at least 90% of the time isn't used and just collects dust in the garage...

Never understood the concept of buying a car just to clean it...

Don't get me wrong I like minters and I like to take care of cars but their primary purpose is to be driven and in my country most of the existing supercars don't see the light of day...
Old 12-04-2006, 10:31 PM
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[quote="Jayen4"]
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
and then proceeded to have my arse handed to me by him!! DOH!

Ha Ha Haa!!
So,the moral here,is ,if you want your arse handing to you........Go find a Lotus Carlton !!
I think I'd be a little more ready for him this time, as now I have approx 180BHP more than I did last time!!!!! LOL That should make it a little more even!!

Please dont get me wrong, I think that the Carlton was an absolutely stunning car (fastest saloon in the world when it was produced - so hard as nails!!!!)

Its just that I have had the pleasure of being driven in the new M5, and it is just mind-blowing!!

That said, given the cost of one, I would still have a second hand porsche turbo!

JJ
Old 12-04-2006, 11:01 PM
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I had a little mini once with a hole in the wing you could put your head in it, never ever let me down what a "super" little car it was .....................and it had a goldseal engine in it.................
Old 13-04-2006, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dojj
the carlton is geared for 305mph if it was able to hit the limiter in 6th, so it's not as if it's slow

305kph maybe, but not mph
Old 13-04-2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by frog
Originally Posted by dojj
the carlton is geared for 305mph if it was able to hit the limiter in 6th, so it's not as if it's slow

305kph maybe, but not mph
no, 305 MILES per hour

i'm still going through the mags with the write ups (i've got a fair few) but when i get the one with the gearing in i'll scan it and post it up

but it's along the lines of it doing 140 mph in 6th and turning over at 2500 rpm or the like
i think it was autocar that did the write up as they had one as a long term tester thing

one more thing you might find intresting, that 176 mph top speed was at about 5500 rpm in 5th which was a 0.75:1 ratio gear, 6th was obviously even taller
Old 13-04-2006, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
but it's along the lines of it doing 140 mph in 6th and turning over at 2500 rpm or the like
i think it was autocar that did the write up as they had one as a long term tester thing
Somehow I can't see the car going from 140mph to 305mph in a single gear starting from 2500rpm, unless it was limited to a gazillion RPM
That's 160mph speed difference in a single gear

Edited to add:

I think the subtle difference here is that it was geared to do that speed in 6th gear, but would never reach it.
Top speed was in fifth, 6th was just a cruising gear, too long for the engine to pull it all the way to 305mph
Old 13-04-2006, 08:36 PM
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thats wha i've said all along though
IF it could pull it WOULD pull up to 305mph in 6th at the rev limit of 6500 rpm

i'm going ot look for the mag now, back in a bit
Old 14-04-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
thats wha i've said all along though
IF it could pull it WOULD pull up to 305mph in 6th at the rev limit of 6500 rpm

i'm going ot look for the mag now, back in a bit
I'm still not sure I understand your point...

I could hand make a gearbox that has the ability to go 400mph!!!! It doesnt mean that the car will ever do 400mph

Are you saying that Vauxhall and Lotus just made a shitty box that was totally inappropriate?
Old 14-04-2006, 04:52 PM
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It was a Corvette box on the Lotus Carlton wasn't it?
Old 14-04-2006, 08:07 PM
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Lotus carlton has about as much chance of hitting 200mph as I have of running the four minute mile LOL

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Old 16-04-2006, 03:54 PM
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it was a miscalculation on part, it's only geared for 286 mph

and bbr did a 520 chip for it, but it was slower in a straight line than the normal one but about a second or so quicker through the gears for any given speed
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