I WAS TOLD BY SOME LAD I KNOW THAT U NEED ABOUT 500BHP SKYLINE TO KEEP UP WITH A DECENT 330BHP COSSIE ? ANYONE KNOW ANY TRUTH IN THIS?

 

can u define that bit of your post 1st

 

I would think a 500bhp skyline would fook over a 330bhp cossie

 

Tell some lad he is full of shit. When my GTR was 420bhp it would leave stg3 330bhp Cossies for dead.

 

lol.... i would hope so too!
skyline is gonna be making a shit load of torque at that power surely.



yes mate,, some lad is full of shit.. skylines surely must produce loads of torque as they got big engines, and got 6 cylinders..

a 500 bhp skyline wouldnt just keep up,, it would pass and keep on pulling!!

 

hes talking shit a skyline will piss all ova a 330 cossie

 

all the above is true 500 bhp is 500 bhp but you do get allot off people claming they have 500 when they haven't and get beaten buy a genuine lets 350 bhp i mainly find this with jap owners

 

1 post hmmm, someone trying to start an arguement, or just come on here to try and wind people up?

 

1 post hmmm, someone trying to start an arguement, or just come on here to try and wind people up?

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that was the point I was making

 

Skylines don't make big torque figures actually mate....

 

i think u need about 100hp more for it to "feel" as quck.

 

 

i raced someone with a 360bhp gtr r32 and he kicked my ass and i had 390!!

 

my mate had a gen 550 bhp r33 done by middlehurst engineering and it was quick as expected but a proper 400 bhp cos can keep with it up to 140 no props so you would prob need at least 375 bhp to trouble one

 

NO YOU DON'T YOU WOULD GET YOUR ARSE KICKED IN THE COSWORTH.

Sorry had to.

 

Are we talking 4WD or 2WD here?

 

probs a gtr so 4wd

 

I know that mate

what about the Cossie?

 

DONT I FEEL SILLY , IVE HAD TWO COSSIES NOW 1 2WD AND 4X4 BOTH BOUT 330-350BHP BUT HAD TO ASK AS IVE NEVER BEEN IN A SKY LINE DIDNT NO IF THE WEIGHT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT

 

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dont worry m8 most road going skylines arnt really 500 bhp its all pub talk but ther is lots of genuine ones but not every skyline that you come accros are i find mostly to be track cars and non road cars .i had a m8 turn up in a r33gt and told me it was around 490 bhp. went out in it told him it was more like 490 donkys

 

The skyline we raced was no where to be seen

 

Can say that about most Cossies, RSTs, or any tuned car though, everyones full of shit

TOTB1 terminal speed results over 500m is a good indication of how much extra genuine power is needed.
Pretty much none

 

500bhp Skyline @ 1600kg (approx - model dependent) = 312.5bhp per tonne
330bhp Cossie @ 1250kg (approx - model dependent) = 264bhp per tonne.

Bye-bye Cossie.....

For it to be even-stevens, the Skyline would need to be around the 425bhp mark. So the car that Cam raced only had a "claimed" 330bhp, big difference from an "actual" 330bhp.... .

When my car was only 400bhp, it beat several 550bhp Skylines over a standing 1.25mile and when it was 515bhp, beat a 650bhp R33 into next week .

It's all about power to weight .

 

Itsmeagain
that is 100% true

 

Skyline is a little heavier, so needs a little more power to match acceleration (once moving, they will win off the line though typically), but the difference isnt 50% more power!

 

Agree with abdr500. We have a lad local with a Skyline (Max Powered one at that ) which everybody says is 500bhp and it most certainly isn't as he only just had the legs on my brothers 230bhp Fiesta. A real 500bhp Skyline is going to be a very quick car

 

Thats soooo tru!!!

 

TOTB1...

Two 3 door rear wheel drive RS's:

Andy Wornell 126mph at 500m
Rob Wiles 123mph at 500m
Both with claimed 500+bhp on the website.

GTRs at 500m:
Andy Barnes 130mph (550bhp est at the time)
Glen H 127mph (540+bhp back then)
Mike Smith 126mph (515bhp back then)

The GTRs also pulled higher 1.25mile times, so in conclusion:

The GTRs were better off the line.
The GTRs were travelling faster at 500m (ie were not being caught)
The GTRs were travelling much faster at 1.25miles.

I use the speed at 500m, since that is a determinant of rate of acceleration from meaningful speeds ie 30mph+. The traction really only has an effect on the ET (elapsed time), hence why I ignored the times, but they were also massivley faster.

 

SO CARS WITH MATCHED BHP COSSIES COME UP TOPS SO THESE SKYLINES ARNT AS GOOD AS PEOPLE MAKE OUT

 

I so wish I had entered my Sapphire in TOTB .

 

Eh?

 

ANY OF THE BIG COSSIES IN TOTBV THIS YEAR

 

MEANING 400 BHP SKYLINE VS 4OOBHP COS 4X4

 

Read what steve actually wrote!

 

Steve,
The trouble is that the cars you picked out of the Cossies, weren't particularly experienced at launching and did very well considering.

 

And you think a launch makes a big difference at the 1.25 mile marker, or even the 500m marker so you mike?

 

Err, read whats wrote, terminal speeds have little if anything to do with launching, especially not at 500m!

 

By up to 5mph on the quarter, no idea on 500m.

 

hint: its less

and at 1.25 miles its nothing

 

ps

The difference in launch you would need between runs to see 5mph difference on the quarter as a result on a car doing 120-130 would be HUGE.

So if what you are saying is true then the lads in question REALLY couldnt drive for shit.
Surely they cant have been THAT bad Mike?????