General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Fitting 500 cooler UPDATED (Major chew)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 21-03-2006 | 07:35 PM
  #1  
*Bri.4.b.Cos*'s Avatar
*Bri.4.b.Cos*
Thread Starter
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland RSOC
Default Fitting 500 cooler UPDATED (Major chew)

Any tips for fitting a 500 cooler to a 4x4 saph?

I'm sure there was a topic on fitting them before but can't find it?

cheers for any help

Bri.

Old 21-03-2006 | 07:57 PM
  #2  
rapidcossie's Avatar
rapidcossie
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: scotland
Default

best down from underneath so will need a ramp.

you will aso need two extra rubber mounts like the rad mounts.

drain collant and remove rad to give plenty room.

is not that hard really.

bolts into holes already there on chassis legs

Old 21-03-2006 | 08:00 PM
  #3  
wimwerf's Avatar
wimwerf
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,926
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: holland
Default

yep...like rapidcossie says...
Old 21-03-2006 | 08:12 PM
  #4  
*Bri.4.b.Cos*'s Avatar
*Bri.4.b.Cos*
Thread Starter
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland RSOC
Default

Do you need to move the rad closer to the engine & will my boost hoses reach the 500 cooler?

Cheers guys
Old 21-03-2006 | 08:14 PM
  #5  
CabbyRS's Avatar
CabbyRS
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 921
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Redditch
Default

or if your clever u can drop the hoses off the rad at top and swing it down place the intercooler up against it and swing em both back up and into place thats what i did saves time but obviously be done on ramp
Old 21-03-2006 | 08:15 PM
  #6  
rapidcossie's Avatar
rapidcossie
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: scotland
Default

Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
Do you need to move the rad closer to the engine & will my boost hoses reach the 500 cooler?

Cheers guys
you shoul dbe ok as my hoses had been cut to fit a 4x4 cooler and they still reached when converting to 500 spec
Old 21-03-2006 | 08:16 PM
  #7  
Ben26's Avatar
Ben26
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,305
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: TORQUAY
Default

Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
Do you need to move the rad closer to the engine & will my boost hoses reach the 500 cooler?

Cheers guys

sometimes u might even have to shorten it mate as the outlet pipe is very long



they are such a piease fo piss to fit as well


Ben
Old 21-03-2006 | 08:16 PM
  #8  
rapidcossie's Avatar
rapidcossie
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: scotland
Default

Originally Posted by RedS2RsTurbo
or if your clever u can drop the hoses off the rad at top and swing it down place the intercooler up against it and swing em both back up and into place thats what i did saves time but obviously be done on ramp
oh now whos a clever bastard
Old 21-03-2006 | 08:18 PM
  #9  
*Bri.4.b.Cos*'s Avatar
*Bri.4.b.Cos*
Thread Starter
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland RSOC
Default

Were have you guys fitted your amal valves?
Old 21-03-2006 | 08:20 PM
  #10  
CabbyRS's Avatar
CabbyRS
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 921
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Redditch
Default

Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Originally Posted by RedS2RsTurbo
or if your clever u can drop the hoses off the rad at top and swing it down place the intercooler up against it and swing em both back up and into place thats what i did saves time but obviously be done on ramp
oh now whos a clever bastard
lmfao sorry it was more out of last gasp attemtps than anythin
Old 21-03-2006 | 09:17 PM
  #11  
rapidcossie's Avatar
rapidcossie
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: scotland
Default

Originally Posted by RedS2RsTurbo
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Originally Posted by RedS2RsTurbo
or if your clever u can drop the hoses off the rad at top and swing it down place the intercooler up against it and swing em both back up and into place thats what i did saves time but obviously be done on ramp
oh now whos a clever bastard
lmfao sorry it was more out of last gasp attemtps than anythin
they usually work out best!
Old 21-03-2006 | 09:18 PM
  #12  
rapidcossie's Avatar
rapidcossie
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: scotland
Default

Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
Were have you guys fitted your amal valves?
ddit have one.


pro alloy do special mounting brackets but just tie wrap it secure in mean time
Old 21-03-2006 | 09:36 PM
  #13  
Neil S's Avatar
Neil S
PassionFord Post Troll
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland
Default

Hey up Bri

Is it a genuine 500 job?

I fitted mine pretty much as described above, with a few tweaks. RS500's have braces between the rad and cooler at the top - they mount to the two lips on the cooler and the lips on the rad where the bottom of the std cooler bolts on. I copied these in plate to make the whole lot stiffer.

The rad moves back toward the engine, and the cooler bolts to where the rad came from. You'll need a second pair of rad bolts and the rubbers.

After finding out how much the pro-alloy amal bracket was, I made my own No disrespect to the lads, I know their kit is top notch, but I don't have £30 for a bit of ally plate

If you want to look at my car to get some ideas, you're more than welcome

Neil.
Old 21-03-2006 | 10:59 PM
  #14  
righthooker's Avatar
righthooker
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,349
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: middlesbrough
Default

bri ,the amal valve on mine is tapped to the drivers side under the cone filter .
Put it any where.,even a dumbass like me can do the cooler change,as neil an the others say piece of piss
Old 21-03-2006 | 11:26 PM
  #15  
-beefy-'s Avatar
-beefy-
formerly beefy-rst-2
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 10,072
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
From: cleveland rsoc
Default

fook me hes bk , how was the holiday fella ??


Old 22-03-2006 | 09:50 PM
  #16  
righthooker's Avatar
righthooker
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,349
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: middlesbrough
Default

Originally Posted by beefy-rst-2
fook me hes bk , how was the holiday fella ??


Fooking painfull
Old 30-03-2006 | 06:57 AM
  #17  
*Bri.4.b.Cos*'s Avatar
*Bri.4.b.Cos*
Thread Starter
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland RSOC
Default

Well what a week i have had. computer hard drive died. Hit a pheasant @ 70mph, oh and the simple task that was fitting the 500 cooler!!!

Removed old cooler and rad and noticed the rad was goosed, so got that reconned. fitted all back together, relocated amal valve etc, went to pipe it up

Cold side boost hose 4 inches too short
Hot side 1inch too short

Managed to make a temp repair but pipe blew of @28psi (gain of 8psi) Ordered my new hoses stating cooler fitted and type etc. when they arrived hot side just about fit but the cold side was 2 inches too short still.

when fitting the cooler, rad position stayed the same and cooler mounted in bolt hole infront of rad (rad to cooler gap approx 1.5 inches)

On the intercooler the hot side outlet is long and the cold side outlet is short is this right. Pics to follow later.

Cheers Bri.

Old 30-03-2006 | 07:03 AM
  #18  
Graceland's Avatar
Graceland
Team HOTHOT!
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 19,065
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Huddersfield Drives: Trains ;)
Default




my alloy goodies and amal valve bracket, and also my extension pipe for the boost hose on the cold side
Old 30-03-2006 | 07:13 AM
  #19  
*Bri.4.b.Cos*'s Avatar
*Bri.4.b.Cos*
Thread Starter
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland RSOC
Default

My intercooler cold side outlet pipe is about 1.5 inches long compared to about six inches on the hot side
Old 30-03-2006 | 07:20 AM
  #20  
space hoppers's Avatar
space hoppers
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,588
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: hants
Default

wot make of cooler is it mate
Old 30-03-2006 | 07:27 AM
  #21  
*Bri.4.b.Cos*'s Avatar
*Bri.4.b.Cos*
Thread Starter
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland RSOC
Default

unknown 500 size 60mm pipes hotside outlet approx 6 inches, cold side approx 1.5 inches. Giving me major grief at the mo and is an 8psi increase normal?????
Old 30-03-2006 | 08:04 AM
  #22  
*Bri.4.b.Cos*'s Avatar
*Bri.4.b.Cos*
Thread Starter
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland RSOC
Default











Shoud be the right size
Old 30-03-2006 | 08:05 AM
  #23  
bud-weis's Avatar
bud-weis
Football Cwazy
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9,553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Redditch, Worcestershire
Default

looks like it's been cut down,probably to fit a swedish style plenum
Old 30-03-2006 | 08:09 AM
  #24  
*Bri.4.b.Cos*'s Avatar
*Bri.4.b.Cos*
Thread Starter
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Cleveland RSOC
Default

can't see any cut marks and it still has the swaged ends
Old 30-03-2006 | 08:11 AM
  #25  
bud-weis's Avatar
bud-weis
Football Cwazy
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9,553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Redditch, Worcestershire
Default

when you ordered your boost pipes,did you order 2wd ones,as they are longer than 4x4 hoses

(intercooler looks to be 2wd fitment if it hasn't been cut)
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Kyle Langford
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
27
05-08-2019 07:54 PM
3i Jim
Cars for Sale
4
20-11-2015 05:12 AM
Michael Wisbey
General Car Related Discussion.
3
14-08-2015 11:57 PM
RsS2daz
Ford RS Turbo Parts for Sale
3
14-08-2015 05:26 AM
track.focus'd
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
26
12-08-2015 05:53 PM



Quick Reply: Fitting 500 cooler UPDATED (Major chew)



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:17 PM.