SPADGE

a perfectly good Cosworth engine and you end up with a serious urge to want to beat said wanna be mechanic round the head with a fookin baseball bat

Removed the engine from my 3 door today as it was a little knocky bottom end. Got another short engine to replace it.
Looked at the seal between sump and block and immediatly knew why it was fooked Removed sump and found at least 1 tube of blue Hylomar floating around in the oil and plenty attached to the oil strainer As a consequence of this pratt the shells are fooked but i think the crank is ok! But all could have been avoided if the wanna be mechanic had used a little bit of restrain when applying what looks like about 3 tubes of fookin Hylomar to seal the sump
Rant over lol

Stu.H

thought u had a mk1 or summat

Rhys

When i done my Saff sump gasket ages ago i toke it off only to find some sealent ont he oil pick up Big no no using sealer on the sump for 2wd!

Zetecfiesta

not good is all i can say!

dannyblackpool

suprise suprise hylomar appears again
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...asc&highlight=

SPADGE

Didn't see that thread 1st time round Danny!
Here are some pics i took earlier.

Half of this was in the sump, some of it was wedged between the sump and the strainer and the rest was the only thing between sump and block


Crank doesn't look too bad there were bits of metal as well as blue silicone on the strainer


Shells are fooked!


This ring off No1 was in 2 pieces

dave cos4x4

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not good Jules.

theres small bits in an engine i had but that amount!

SPADGE

Why is the pic re-sizer thing not doing its job

dave cos4x4

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it did before.

Jim Galbally

pics look fine (sizewise, not content) to me

900ss

wtf peeps use that much i dont know

The builder of that mota deserved to have it blow up on em.

SPADGE

Took the cam cover off the same engine 2 weeks ago Wyn and found a similar amount sealing that! No paper gasket, no half moon seals

Am i right in saying a 2wd should have a cork sump gasket? Its the 4x4's that don't have one? Or have i got that the wrong way round
This didn't have a gasket for the sump anyway.

dave cos4x4

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you are corret.

2wd cars should have a gasket.

pity the mechanic never knew that.

bud-weis

yeah a 2 piece cork gasket , like on the left of this pic



that's a shocking amount of sealant

rings don't look genuine either??

Coldo

Excuse my ignorance.. but what it hylomar?

Also, is that literally the remains of a plastic container? And it was inside your sump?

Madness

SPADGE

At least he used a proper head gasket and didn't stick that on with this shite lol Whats the betting its a Pinto one though

Zetecfiesta

people who do that to cars really shouldnt be called mechanics! thats terible the amount of crap youve taken out!

SPADGE

Its a shite brand of silicone sealant that everyone seems to buy as they think it is the best mate

dave cos4x4

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probably just used a standard one.

hylomar is a paste in a tube used for sealing.

bud-weis

hylomar is a gasket sealant, like a sticky soft glue that seals, but only to be used very sparingly or ideally not at all

Coldo

Aha, im with you.

So.. how did the tube get into your engine?

SPADGE

Thought so mate but its been a while
So he didn't use a cam seal/half moons or a sump gasket
So glad this engine wasn't bought by me! My mate whom i got the car from bought the engine off Ebay about a month ago for 1500 quid and it was supposed to be spot on

SPADGE

Ehhhh????
The tube wasn't in the engine just its contents were used in place of a proper gasket! When the sump bolts were tightened the Hylomar has squeezed out of the sides and gone into the engine. Bit like eating a vanilla slice lol

bud-weis

sorry mate , we've all failed to explain hylomar is a BLUE coloured sealant

pee vee

so how do they stop the sealer gettin into the sump on 4x4 cos?

(apart from not using 2 tubes of it like that joker lol )

SPADGE

Well for a start use high temp RTV sealer and not fookin Hylomar!
Squeeze out a continuous bead along outside of the bolt holes about 3mm round and do not put it on with a trowel

sbd16v

my dad uses some wurth sealer for any sealing jobs he needs really good stuff

Ginge !

lots of 2wd cossie enginew dont have the cork gasket fitted ive notied from the few ive seen

seems strange though i admit

RWD_cossie_wil

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Is all I can say.......Some people should have a licence to be let near a spanner

st3v3

didnt you know the more Hylomar you use the better its seals

SS1

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its like pc CPU heat sink paste

the more the better yeah that will do the job loads on it

then it boots up gets warm and

they live they learn "normally the hard ££££ way "

starturbo

I wouldnt say its that shite Spadge.We use it on aircraft engines so next time your flyin off to sunnier climbs,dont look out of the window at the engine.