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What clutch for 350/400bhp on cossie?

Old Mar 3, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Need a new clutch soon so i can run some more boost.

Which one is a good one for upto 400bhp and track use?

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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Alcon 6 paddle (and flywheel ground/refaced).
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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What sort of price are these?
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wildheart
What sort of price are these?
Ł300-Ł400 for kit! I'd use a standard cover on that
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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I had a std cover & Alcon when I was on '803's, but now run the full kit - can't really say it's any more difficult to drive with the Alcon cover...
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Ap organic! Sod paddle rubbish I run one fine on 400bhp
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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i have an alcon and would go for and Ap six padle next
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i have AP, why would you go for the same instead of the alcon rapid?
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Would also add that to get maximum usage from a paddle, use the handbrake when appropriate - they don't take kindly to being 'held on the clutch'
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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If u only thinking about 35bhp to 400bhp i would deffo get Organic! Just like a std clutch!!! I have never had problems with mine and makes for much nicer drive than paddle. I have also been advised that the clutch would handle 450bhp which is more than enough for my needs really, as cant see it going much over 400bhp any time soon.
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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AP 6 paddle
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
If u only thinking about 35bhp to 400bhp i would deffo get Organic! Just like a std clutch!!! I have never had problems with mine and makes for much nicer drive than paddle. I have also been advised that the clutch would handle 450bhp which is more than enough for my needs really, as cant see it going much over 400bhp any time soon.
Totally agree with you there rhys as i have had 2 alcon 6 paddle clutches they dont last long. got ap organic now much nicer clutch
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Now im getting realy confused
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wildheart
Now im getting realy confused
People with many views go with what you think
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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I havent got a view though,thats why im asking
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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would have thought you go for a paddle being a track car!! i see rhys' point but its rarely used on the road. you taking advice and trailoring it to croft?!
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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AP 6 paddle here too, with standard cover.
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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AP organic all the way, just like a standard clutch (slightly stiffer ) but handels the power well.
very slight clutch smell when using the Anti Lag but it could be my heat sheild melting



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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Alcon 6 Paddle with standard cover
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Ive got ap paddle and standard cover not to bad to drive
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Originally Posted by wildheart
I havent got a view though,thats why im asking
Youve got enough now
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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I ran mine on AP cover and organic plate with 450 brake when first mapping, held the power no probs. No judder on take off. Finally died when we finished mapping, 2.3 bar, 480 ft/lb 521brake. Waved the white flag
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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i run a helix organic on my low powered car, but it drives lovely!

but i think 400bhp(ish) is its limit (good job i'm only getting half that )
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Kris 2wd..

alcon or ap plate on a standard cover for 380bhp which in reality is all you will get from a t34...

I had a standard clutch for 330 all be it a lighter car.

I ran a standard cover and an alcon plate for 2500 miles @ 450+ didn't last long...

AP plates Look better material than the alcon.

Flywheels very rarely need regrinding, if its knackerd buy a new one.
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Had enough of paddle clutches in the past to last me a life time....I use the car alot in and around town as well as out in the sticks...cant be arsed with the juddering you get when you take up drive and making excuses to passengers who look at you as tho you cant drive when you almost stall it going for a gap in traffic...so I was considering an AP organic and after reading what others have put in this topic, my mind is now set...organic all the way lol


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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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alcon 6 paddle
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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alcon 6 paddle in mine and they feel brutal as fuck like its wanting to eat the gearbox or something the joys of paddle clutches though i guess
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Alcon 6 paddle and cover in mine

Had no problems with it just gets a bit juddery when stuck in traffic.

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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Cheers chaps,a lot clearer now.

Looks like i'll go for a 6 paddle with standard cover.
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Originally Posted by mattbibs
you taking advice and trailoring it to croft?!
Who adivised me to trailor it

Jamies taking his up on a trailer and if need be i can take mine back on his,unless his dies that is!
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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whats jamie got now ? are we on about the same jamie that used to have the zimma
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Alcon 6 paddle and cover in mine

Had no problems with it just gets a bit juddery one stuck in traffic.

Steve.
yeah i know the feeling either kangaroo or stalling it for me in traffic
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cossiecrew
whats jamie got now ? are we on about the same jamie that used to have the zimma
Yep Jamie with The M3 Evo.

He has his own little collection of cars too
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I'm helping with 400-500bhp Escos now. It's build for fun, so some track, some road milage. What would you reccomend? Currently runs Sachs Racing which is exelently mild but it's rated only to 400Nm and we suspect it will fail. It's going to run swedish box but we don't want the clutch to be to harsh on the drivetrain. What would you recommend?
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Originally Posted by wildheart
Originally Posted by cossiecrew
whats jamie got now ? are we on about the same jamie that used to have the zimma
Yep Jamie with The M3 Evo.

He has his own little collection of cars too
and they are ??????????????????
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Top secret at the moment.

He'd kill me if i told anyone

All being well you may see them in the not to distant future.

But i am allowed to tell you about the Fiesta of Love that he is running around in at the moment.
1.1 power and someones old rs1800 interior
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is your fezza all caged up now then ?
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It will be once NMS open there doors
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Originally Posted by Turbo lag
AP organic all the way, just like a standard clutch (slightly stiffer ) but handels the power well.
very slight clutch smell when using the Anti Lag but it could be my heat sheild melting



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