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Old 17-02-2006 | 06:15 PM
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Bad luck Rod. Im sure if Mark says he can find a solution then its all go again. At least i got a ride in it if you choose never to build it back up
Old 17-02-2006 | 06:16 PM
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simple yes or no would have done rod.

always on the deffensive

wasnt comparing your car to any other car as not every does top speed runs (doesnt float everyones boat)

and yours was the best "off the shelf" available.
Old 17-02-2006 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 3drstretch
Was it defo the last run that caused the damage though or just as mark suggest the lifespan of such an engine.Ie 25k miles.So if built to same spec again could it not be used for another say 20k as it more potent now.
It was the last run that we had the problem but these engines are on a short life span at this level,
In a way I am happy as I always expected it to be the pistons that would cry enough first,
There are pro's and cons of looking at using a old block against a new one so we will look at whats happend and why then make the decision as to which one to use.

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Old 17-02-2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
simple yes or no would have done rod.

always on the deffensive

wasnt comparing your car to any other car as not every does top speed runs (doesnt float everyones boat)

and yours was the best "off the shelf" available.
The only thing that was tech off the self was the block everthing else was custom to my requiments.
I havent seen one of these extra long longstud block and I think its a myth

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Old 17-02-2006 | 06:22 PM
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Bad luck Rod and Mark hope you will find a cure soon and be back as the fastest Cosworth


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Old 17-02-2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo lag
Bad luck Rod and Mark hope you will find a cure soon and be back as the fastest Cosworth


Dave.
Refrase that we still are the fastest

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Old 17-02-2006 | 06:42 PM
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can understand that completey rod

as you say can make a descision when full diagnosis is done, sensible thing would be to bring forwards what you were allready planing and quitting

but then again, not many "sensible" people have a 900bhp sierra , and might regret not completing what you wanted to

tough descision

would love to see it rebuilt, as the past year or so with this car, martins in preperation and a few others, it really has bought the top end off the ford sceen back to light and shown that the world isnt all skylines and supras
Old 17-02-2006 | 06:46 PM
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25k is a lot of miles for a engine like yours to of stayed together.

Surely rebuilding it to the same spec on a new 200 block isn't go to break the bank that much ? IF everything else is in one piece that is

Good luck with whatever you try to achieve and if you do knock it on the head you have achieved more than most people ever will
Old 17-02-2006 | 06:49 PM
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shit propper gutted for you and mark !!!!
hope you decide to give it a refresh and go at it again then sell it all nice new and fresh with a 210+ record to retire on
even if you dont decide to bother you have done more than enough to push the blue oval to new levels and the records been set
lets see how long it is till it isif broken by someone else etc
shit news but chin up it could be worse !!!
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Old 17-02-2006 | 06:55 PM
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Personally i think you guys have done really well to get where you are today ...well done and I'm really gutted to hear about your block ..but the mileage its done says a big statement about what you have already done and no doubt will continue to achieve
Old 17-02-2006 | 07:01 PM
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Not good Why doesent mark buy the saff and use it to promote his company and keep pushing it on further??
Old 17-02-2006 | 07:05 PM
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bad news rod but we all knew it would never last forever.

good luck in your decision wether to give it another bash or not, but it would be good if you did
Old 17-02-2006 | 07:15 PM
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Personally, I think you always needed a 6 speed box with a taller top gear to lower your rpm at 210mph, running the power at the rpm you do amazes me its lasted this long, I agree with those above its been a fine effort so far but please don't give up yet as its unfinished business, anyway what else you gonna do in retirement?
Old 17-02-2006 | 07:18 PM
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Gutted....
Old 17-02-2006 | 07:24 PM
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Rod, Mark, Congratulations, you properly fooked that block, and i know beneath the pain your smiling quiety...


Originally Posted by MADRod
would your Dad carry on
Do you realise Rod, that i suspect you are actually somewhat older than the fathers of 80% of PassionFords members? Food for thought people... especially as most of you couldnt drive this car, let alone your fathers.. lol


Originally Posted by Stuart.W
Personally, I think you always needed a 6 speed box with a taller top gear to lower your rpm at 210mph, running the power at the rpm you do amazes me its lasted this long, I agree with those above its been a fine effort so far but please don't give up yet as its unfinished business, anyway what else you gonna do in retirement?

Wont go into it pal as im tired, but thats not the way forward at all as you would then need to design an engine with more power than this one to suit your planned higher gearing....
Old 17-02-2006 | 07:26 PM
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well somthing what have to go, never seen a 200 crack like that though.

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Old 17-02-2006 | 07:31 PM
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ouch!
Old 17-02-2006 | 07:46 PM
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sorry to hear that rod
Old 17-02-2006 | 07:46 PM
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arrrr nooooo you thought you had solved the problem and you was well happy now this.
Old 17-02-2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ECOSNIGE
Not good Why doesent mark buy the saff and use it to promote his company and keep pushing it on further??
Mark hates Cossies hes an EVO man.
Old 17-02-2006 | 08:58 PM
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Sorry to hear this mate
Old 17-02-2006 | 09:09 PM
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very sorry to see that Rod
whatever you decide to do you pushed the boundaries with the car.
Old 17-02-2006 | 09:39 PM
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Gutted for you.

It certainly did the business while it held together though
Old 17-02-2006 | 10:41 PM
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Hi Rod

Bit of a bummer but you can sit back and say you were the first to break the
magic 200mph in a cosworth and you still hold the record.

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Old 17-02-2006 | 11:00 PM
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Well done on all you have achieved
Old 17-02-2006 | 11:28 PM
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gutted

take time out and then decide what to do

congrats on everything that has been achieved so far
Old 17-02-2006 | 11:29 PM
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ouch, nasty
Old 18-02-2006 | 12:23 AM
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Gutted for you Rod.
Its a testement to the quality of Marks engines that you have had so much troublefree use and enjoyment for 25k miles at such extreme power levels.
I hope you and Mark rebuild the car but thats your decision and its achievements are a credit to you and Marks meticulous preparation and dedication.

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Old 18-02-2006 | 12:55 AM
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Not good to see


Was gutted when i watched what happened at Brunter's




Look forward to see the car back again if thats what you decide to do
Old 18-02-2006 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by Ryan
rod just a question

was the block long studded.

when i say long studded i dont mean your traditional longstudding.

i mean the ones that go all the way through to the main caps, like they use in sweeden and norway?

sad news indeed.
My block was the best available, as were pistons/crank. Lets see those Scandinanian drag cars do 13 ( yes it went on the 13th) 200mph Topspeed runs at Brunters. Big difference from a drag run to Held Flatout for 1.5miles we just found the limit. Marks special pistons. crank & rods outlasted a Mountune Nikasil linered block with lots of other tweaks.
Rod

I agree with what you are saying there Rod, but thats also why i think if everything is still found to be fine except for the block you should rebuild it and go and set the record it should have been capable of doing, your block blantatly was a victim of not just the amount of power it saw but also how long it had seen similar levels (ie 700+) for too.

If you bolt it back in a brand new block it will almost certainly survive a top speed run, then you can pension it off by putting a smaller turbo on it and it will last for ages.

Your money though of course, so your decision, easy for me to say i want to see it run 210+ when im not the one funding it.

Would a decent custom girdle not drastically improve the durability of the block Mark?
Old 18-02-2006 | 06:27 AM
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Very bad luck

Hope to hear you fix it

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Old 18-02-2006 | 07:41 AM
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Sorry to hear of the bad new Rod..... I just wanted to let you know what an inspiration you have been to many of us, not just in the UK. But all over the world, I'm based in Hong Kong and have followed the amazing achievements set by you and Mark for many years!!!

I am fortunate to have friends who have access to the most exotic and highly tuned cars i.e. 1,000+hp GTR's etc in the world, but on many occasions I will remind them that the small 2.0 litre engine under the bonnet of my Escort Cossie, is the building block of an 4 door saloon that can top 200 mph!!! Yes, your car!!!

A big thanks to you and Mark in giving many of us new and greater targets to aim for
Old 18-02-2006 | 07:49 AM
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gutted to hear this Rod.

Real same its gone right at the last hurdle,just before you was going to call it a day.

is it worth it to carry on?

money and time etc.......

what is there to carry on for if you have the top speed etc....to better it..

sorry to say it but it may be the time has come..


Well done for what you have achieved,the both of you.
Old 18-02-2006 | 11:08 AM
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I hope you will rebuild it maby a diffrent stronger engine is better idea.
Now is the time for new engine like modular ford engine(32 valve cobra engine they can handell more horsepower than your yb cosworth engine.

Old 18-02-2006 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RS500
I hope you will rebuild it maby a diffrent stronger engine is better idea.
Now is the time for new engine like modular ford engine(32 valve cobra engine they can handell more horsepower than your yb cosworth engine.

I take it you are in a combined net cafe/coffee shop when you posted?
Rod and Marks efforts are for the fastest Cosworth NOT the fastest Ford Sierra.
Old 18-02-2006 | 11:31 AM
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I will be more faster whit a cobra engine than whit a yb cosworth.
Maby more update zetec cosworth block like that one found in the ford focus rs.
Old 18-02-2006 | 12:44 PM
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Rod gutted for you mate but you nothing else to prove you been there and done it a number of times

Also the 1st 200+mph cosworth in the world

IMO Time to call it a day and let the rest catch up

Is it worth spending more money for one last event??
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