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Old 14-02-2006, 10:58 AM
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regarding the rev counter issue:

does it read double or half the actual reading?



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Old 14-02-2006, 10:59 AM
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Pectel also do a mod to correct this... .
Old 14-02-2006, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Pectel also do a mod to correct this... .
since bloody when!!!
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so do i mike

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Old 14-02-2006, 01:11 PM
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i sorted my rev issue my fitting a sexy Stack tacho which is progamable so you just double the revs back up. it looks a dam sight better, is a lot more accurate and reads high enough for my extra engine revs.

hope this helps.

Cheers. Adam.
Old 14-02-2006, 04:44 PM
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When is there going to be a proper fix for this?

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Old 14-02-2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
so do i mike

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do you............... oh good
Old 14-02-2006, 05:08 PM
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Reads half Ryan without the mod! (depending on tacho I suppose though)

Now ive showed you how to fix it Ryan!!! Get on and make it part of your looms or an add on!!!!

Old 14-02-2006, 06:30 PM
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does that mean my Rev counter will work this week then ?
Old 14-02-2006, 07:31 PM
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So how do you get the standard rev counter to read right then ?

Does it involve a few diodes, or something more straightforward ?
Old 14-02-2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jon@work
So how do you get the standard rev counter to read right then ?

Does it involve a few diodes, or something more straightforward ?
Yes it does jon@work although worth pointing out my car uses a VDO tacho not ford clocks, but if the problem is the same I imagine the solution will be the same.
Old 14-02-2006, 09:57 PM
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Ryan

have you done this mod to my loom fella!

polly_x

very impressed with ya motor on sat stu! als sounds the tits

do i get a passenger ride at bedford if it passes noise regs
Old 15-02-2006, 03:51 PM
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Ahh Daveyboy. I see names and faces now!

Beds trackdays rides no probs. Bring your lip balm!

Stu
Old 15-02-2006, 03:59 PM
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will do fella!!!
Old 15-02-2006, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by polly_x
Ahh Daveyboy. I see names and faces now!

Beds trackdays rides no probs. Bring your lip balm!

Stu
Me too - I have a full face helmet, so you can skip the lip balm .
Old 15-02-2006, 04:15 PM
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Mike Rainbird

oi i was first!

can everyone form an orderly que!!!
Old 15-02-2006, 04:32 PM
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my rev counter works fine

i have tried a mod with a set of diodes and it didnt work bit the multiplier i have now works a treat
Old 15-02-2006, 05:10 PM
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I also need this fixed... anyone want offer a fix?
Old 15-02-2006, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
I also need this fixed... anyone want offer a fix?
are you running the dizzyless as part of the in built P8, or as an add on board ?

mark
Old 15-02-2006, 05:38 PM
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P8 and Boreham/pectel board
Old 15-02-2006, 05:40 PM
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i will be offering this once i have tested it
Old 15-02-2006, 06:50 PM
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Mark the loom and ecu will be going off to you tomorrow !

Ryan , ive whipped the engine out for the sump change etc... hope this doesn't prevent you from finishing off ok ??
Old 15-02-2006, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Mark the loom and ecu will be going off to you tomorrow !

Ryan , ive whipped the engine out for the sump change etc... hope this doesn't prevent you from finishing off ok ??
cheers tony
Old 15-02-2006, 08:09 PM
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If your trying to split the count pulses from teh 2 amps and direct them into one ouput, in my experience it wont work sadly.

Hope youve found a better way though as this RPM issue is holding back a BIG project of mine at the moment.
Old 15-02-2006, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
If your trying to split the count pulses from the 2 amps and direct them into one ouput, in my experience it wont work sadly.
dont i know
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
If your trying to split the count pulses from the 2 amps and direct them into one ouput, in my experience it wont work sadly.

Hope youve found a better way though as this RPM issue is holding back a BIG project of mine at the moment.
Well ive modded mine using this method/theory and it seems fine. There are some components that both combine and isolate the 2 coil feeds.

I need to do some more testing at higher revs on the road at the weekend as only revved it to about 3K so far. I have an engine monitor in my car as a reference point and the tacho reads the same as this up to 3K. I am taking a feed directly from the coilpack triggers on the 3 pin plug on the loom.

As said before and worth repeating, I am using a VDO tacho in my car that was originally running with the old coil and dizzy setup before I converted. Ive made no changes to the tacho and as far as I know it works on the same principle as the normal ford tacho would??

I am also using dizzyless coilpack straight from a P8 with Pectel board.

What method did you use Stu and what results?

Will post up the results of high rev testing when I do it.
Old 15-02-2006, 10:15 PM
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what about an L6 ecu?

fix yet?
Old 15-02-2006, 10:21 PM
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I'm hoping the threads below can help a friend out - he's running one of Simon's boards (which doesn't run his rev counter properly), and hopefully may also apply to the dizzyless P8 that I'm running (?)

http://picasso.org/mjlj/?q=node/2

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/view...id=29956&page=
Old 15-02-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt
what about an L6 ecu?

fix yet?
The method ive used should not matter what ECU you run as it feeds from the coilpack triggers.

The circuit diagram on http://picasso.org/mjlj/?q=node/2 is pretty much the way I have done it. Albeit that info is for a 8 cylinder engine setup with twin 4 lead coils. Same principle though.

Its an expensive modification mind you.

Mine cost me 21 pence to do.
Old 16-02-2006, 10:36 AM
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So what is a zener? 15-18v ?

Diode? does that theoretically mean all I need is one of those just before the signal goes into my clocks?
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Tried exactly that with an escort Cosworth,. but seeing as youve had success it may well be wort trying some more variations of the theme
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parts arrived this morning.

hopefully test them today or tommorrow
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Ryan

any luck with my switches???
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yes mate.

they turned up this aternoon
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so ill have the loom monday??
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so would the kickback with the 18V zenner be man enough to drive the ford clocks...? SECS...? what dya reckon?

stu - how did the trial go with the above ...?
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DAMO, a zenner diode is a special kind of diode which works as per a normal diode until the voltage across it reaches the breakdown voltage (18v for example) and then it will conduct in the opposite, way, think of it as a voltage regulator


thinking about what i just put in the above post - is bollox -

it will make sure a spike of at least 18 v is made available to the tacho... so yuo will actually get some parity between the high and lows of the back emf..
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Tried exactly that with an escort Cosworth,. but seeing as youve had success it may well be wort trying some more variations of the theme
and a sierra cosworth in november 2004

didnt work, and im on an elliot tacho
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so what we need to do is make the circuit
have its 2 inputs from pin 1 of each ignition amp....?

RYAN, could you make a sub loom that would incorporate this as part of the coilpack loom, and give the output to the green wire back to the tach - would this mean not having to earth and supply the tacho from the ecu ground and live as per SECS fix to the problem?


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