Had fuelling set up...melted a piston on the way home :(
07-02-2006, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by big_wig_074
i have a complaint rob,its a bloody steep hill to get to the pub for a lunch when the car is in there,could you not move somewhere less hilly?and the junction to the road? 
try getting out of there at rush hour in a 400bhp cossie with no handbrake and a violent 4 paddle clutch! 
try getting out of there at rush hour in a 400bhp cossie with no handbrake and a violent 4 paddle clutch! Imagine working there and having a paddle and getting out everyday at 5.30pm
Fookin glad I left now
Only joking Rob
07-02-2006, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob@SCC Performance
Well thats my Dirty Laundry Aired....
Weve had over 10,000 cars in for repairs etc in the last 5years (well weve done over 10,000 invoices now....)
and weve had a very very small handfull of complaints - very low % so i hope everyone see's this pointless drivel for what it really is
Weve had over 10,000 cars in for repairs etc in the last 5years (well weve done over 10,000 invoices now....)
and weve had a very very small handfull of complaints - very low % so i hope everyone see's this pointless drivel for what it really is
ginger is this th turbo engine that was once a xr2i engine or something and you converted yourself and had ran for about a year on 16psi
or was that another scrapheap challenge 
07-02-2006, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve_B
Originally Posted by big_wig_074
i have a complaint rob,its a bloody steep hill to get to the pub for a lunch when the car is in there,could you not move somewhere less hilly?and the junction to the road? try getting out of there at rush hour in a 400bhp cossie with no handbrake and a violent 4 paddle clutch!
try getting out of there at rush hour in a 400bhp cossie with no handbrake and a violent 4 paddle clutch! Imagine working there and having a paddle and getting out everyday at 5.30pm
Fookin glad I left now
Only joking Rob
It nice to get the right bits now you work there..... and at the right price too
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Originally Posted by Daviet
Originally Posted by Rob@SCC Performance
Well thats my Dirty Laundry Aired....
Weve had over 10,000 cars in for repairs etc in the last 5years (well weve done over 10,000 invoices now....)
and weve had a very very small handfull of complaints - very low % so i hope everyone see's this pointless drivel for what it really is
Weve had over 10,000 cars in for repairs etc in the last 5years (well weve done over 10,000 invoices now....)
and weve had a very very small handfull of complaints - very low % so i hope everyone see's this pointless drivel for what it really is
ginger is this th turbo engine that was once a xr2i engine or something and you converted yourself and had ran for about a year on 16psi
or was that another scrapheap challenge 
07-02-2006, 09:52 PM
#165
Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
I have had the same experiance before with the mentioned company my car went in for a new turbo and erst lsd box to be fitted.
came out the same day headgasket went
went back in for repair
on the way home from picking the frst up blue smoke billowing out everywhere
piston broke!!!
went back in for a full re-build i asked for forged low comp pistons to be fitted, came back with standard zetec pistons and skimmed to lower compression (zvh) annoyed me greatly as i specifically asked for FORGED pistons to be fitted at WHATEVER COST ( they said the forged ones are overpriced and these pistons would be up2 the job)
following a strict running in period it went back for 'setting up' a week later only to FAIL once again on the way home
was then rebuilt again FULL CHARGE TO ME after my car has broken so many times upon leaving this place on the same day and left runnin only 10psi boost from its original 15 it was running being told it will just BREAK AGAIN IF I up the boost. so why wasent i told this from the beginning to stop all the HEARTACHE AND WALLET BREAK.
all those rebuilds for nothing
i got to another 'ford tuner' who tell me that skimming pistons is the most stupid thing to do as it weakens an already weak standard piston
either SCC's equipment needs calibrating or maybe they need some more experiance
attitude was also, turbo engines are unreliable so get used to it
carl
came out the same day headgasket went
went back in for repair
on the way home from picking the frst up blue smoke billowing out everywhere
piston broke!!!
went back in for a full re-build i asked for forged low comp pistons to be fitted, came back with standard zetec pistons and skimmed to lower compression (zvh) annoyed me greatly as i specifically asked for FORGED pistons to be fitted at WHATEVER COST ( they said the forged ones are overpriced and these pistons would be up2 the job)
following a strict running in period it went back for 'setting up' a week later only to FAIL once again on the way home
was then rebuilt again FULL CHARGE TO ME after my car has broken so many times upon leaving this place on the same day and left runnin only 10psi boost from its original 15 it was running being told it will just BREAK AGAIN IF I up the boost. so why wasent i told this from the beginning to stop all the HEARTACHE AND WALLET BREAK.
all those rebuilds for nothing
i got to another 'ford tuner' who tell me that skimming pistons is the most stupid thing to do as it weakens an already weak standard piston
either SCC's equipment needs calibrating or maybe they need some more experiance
attitude was also, turbo engines are unreliable so get used to it
carl
07-02-2006, 10:34 PM
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sorry but aint we loosing the plot here again 
yoir calling ME your worst nightmare,,,,,,, sorry rob but when maria was slating your work for her job i feel that was worse than a customer with a WORKING CAR FOR A YEAR that melts 2 miles AFTER having the fueling checked ,,,,,,,,,, actually i feel that the post is justified for opinions,,,,, hell look at the first few,,,,,,, look how we have lied about what ???
you said the car was running badly when it turned up and pissing water from the rad,,,,,,when it was actually leaking from a join in the rad,,,,,, that was already known as you was told he has a new one tpo fit but never had time
this engine or socalled "scrap heap challenge" is a 62k mile standard NP CHIPED erst engine that was BODGED as such BUT dont correctly, bit like the term "machined" that so many use,,,,,,,,,, it NEVER missed a beat remember,,,,,,,,,, thats 1 year of NO set up driving and never had a issue, this was ME forcing a mate who said " why bother as its fine,,,, ive had no problems with it"
its running a custom made MSD chip for the EXACT SPEC of the car,,,,,, not just a 195bhp chip might i add,,,,,,, its got a "bodged" stage 2 turbo technics 4x4 cossie turbo woth 63 exhaust housing,,,,,,,,, not exactly the cossie turbo bolted to fit and all work has been to within limits,,,,, it could run more boost but 16psi is the whats recomended untill the fueling is checked
think you may need to understand the difference with people acting a bodge merchant and people actually bodgling cars,,,,,,,,, a end crap leaking on a genuine ford rad aint unheard of,,,,,,,, considering its a standard xr2 rad
and lets not forget the cars NOT dropped a valve,,,,,,, not threw a leg out of bed and it was not fucking ragged on a long road cause the car is not very good in the wet with 16psi on greasey roads
as for the comment about them speeds in the wet,,,,,,,,,,, might i add i was not driving at them times and ive been ALOT faster in the car with him and i can promise you it scares the christ out of me,,,,,, but hes never had a crash and seems to control,a car,,,,,,,,,,, and he was throwing a strop about getting home
claim the engines a disaster WAITING to happen as much as you like,,,,,, the reason why its failed IF melted it NOTHING to do with the engine
btw this xr2 also has uprated suspention. powerflex bushes throughout and cossie front brakes,,,,,,,,,, its seriously NOT a hit and hope car,,,, just like my "ropey old saph" aint actually a ropey old saph,,,,, its a car i choose NOT to wash but DO maintain with anything it needs,,,,,, otherwise i would have just fitted 3 new rods and bolted my old engine back together and NOT bought another engine to change all the gaskets in that asell as oil seals,,,, core plugs ect just to be sure
and rob this post was NOT to fucking slag you off,,,,,,, you cpu;d have chosen not to disclose it was YPU who done the work,,,,,, you posted who it was even though we said we didnt want to
the heading isnt even SCC KILLED MY CAR ECT
read it again and understand what was being said
yoir calling ME your worst nightmare,,,,,,, sorry rob but when maria was slating your work for her job i feel that was worse than a customer with a WORKING CAR FOR A YEAR that melts 2 miles AFTER having the fueling checked ,,,,,,,,,, actually i feel that the post is justified for opinions,,,,, hell look at the first few,,,,,,, look how we have lied about what ???
you said the car was running badly when it turned up and pissing water from the rad,,,,,,when it was actually leaking from a join in the rad,,,,,, that was already known as you was told he has a new one tpo fit but never had time
this engine or socalled "scrap heap challenge" is a 62k mile standard NP CHIPED erst engine that was BODGED as such BUT dont correctly, bit like the term "machined" that so many use,,,,,,,,,, it NEVER missed a beat remember,,,,,,,,,, thats 1 year of NO set up driving and never had a issue, this was ME forcing a mate who said " why bother as its fine,,,, ive had no problems with it"
its running a custom made MSD chip for the EXACT SPEC of the car,,,,,, not just a 195bhp chip might i add,,,,,,, its got a "bodged" stage 2 turbo technics 4x4 cossie turbo woth 63 exhaust housing,,,,,,,,, not exactly the cossie turbo bolted to fit and all work has been to within limits,,,,, it could run more boost but 16psi is the whats recomended untill the fueling is checked
think you may need to understand the difference with people acting a bodge merchant and people actually bodgling cars,,,,,,,,, a end crap leaking on a genuine ford rad aint unheard of,,,,,,,, considering its a standard xr2 rad
and lets not forget the cars NOT dropped a valve,,,,,,, not threw a leg out of bed and it was not fucking ragged on a long road cause the car is not very good in the wet with 16psi on greasey roads
as for the comment about them speeds in the wet,,,,,,,,,,, might i add i was not driving at them times and ive been ALOT faster in the car with him and i can promise you it scares the christ out of me,,,,,, but hes never had a crash and seems to control,a car,,,,,,,,,,, and he was throwing a strop about getting home
claim the engines a disaster WAITING to happen as much as you like,,,,,, the reason why its failed IF melted it NOTHING to do with the engine
btw this xr2 also has uprated suspention. powerflex bushes throughout and cossie front brakes,,,,,,,,,, its seriously NOT a hit and hope car,,,, just like my "ropey old saph" aint actually a ropey old saph,,,,, its a car i choose NOT to wash but DO maintain with anything it needs,,,,,, otherwise i would have just fitted 3 new rods and bolted my old engine back together and NOT bought another engine to change all the gaskets in that asell as oil seals,,,, core plugs ect just to be sure
and rob this post was NOT to fucking slag you off,,,,,,, you cpu;d have chosen not to disclose it was YPU who done the work,,,,,, you posted who it was even though we said we didnt want to
the heading isnt even SCC KILLED MY CAR ECT
read it again and understand what was being said
07-02-2006, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Wow... what a cracking topic
Some points, if anyone cares, and in NO particular order...
1) For Ł60 i wouldnt even have checked the AFR with my wideband.
2) The COSSIE pump does NOT fail if you up the pressure.
3) Even if it wasnt a cossie pump, Rob upped the pressure back to STD. I plainly said upping it from OEM caused the problem. Every time you show her boost the fuel pressure rises chaps
4) Why did the pressure drop? Well... was the cap missing from the top? If so, it dropped cos of an idiot fooking about is most likely. If it was untouched, probably simple fatigue. Its a simple spring in there, just as likely as an actuator to soften with age.
5) Mayo - check turbo? As SCC do and obviouisly you DONT know, its not uncommon for the core to splut and introduce water into the oil. The result can be a dead turbo and lots of oil in your water. Id have checked it too.
6) Mayo - Melted? It is NOT common for a dead piston to put mayo in the oil and im not sure why you all think it is? This is more commonly a headgasket problem, as SCC said at first.
7) I hope you like humble Pie if the fooking headgaskets failed.
Some points, if anyone cares, and in NO particular order...
1) For Ł60 i wouldnt even have checked the AFR with my wideband.
2) The COSSIE pump does NOT fail if you up the pressure.
3) Even if it wasnt a cossie pump, Rob upped the pressure back to STD. I plainly said upping it from OEM caused the problem. Every time you show her boost the fuel pressure rises chaps
4) Why did the pressure drop? Well... was the cap missing from the top? If so, it dropped cos of an idiot fooking about is most likely. If it was untouched, probably simple fatigue. Its a simple spring in there, just as likely as an actuator to soften with age.
5) Mayo - check turbo? As SCC do and obviouisly you DONT know, its not uncommon for the core to splut and introduce water into the oil. The result can be a dead turbo and lots of oil in your water. Id have checked it too.
6) Mayo - Melted? It is NOT common for a dead piston to put mayo in the oil and im not sure why you all think it is? This is more commonly a headgasket problem, as SCC said at first.
7) I hope you like humble Pie if the fooking headgaskets failed.
07-02-2006, 10:48 PM
#169
just finding my feet
i never missed it,,,,,,,,,,, i WILL remove the head now EVEN THOUGH I CANT BE ARSED and take photos to prove,,,,,, and will even appologise even though the thread wasnt aimed at rob to start with,,,,,,,, well not for everyone to see if you get what i mean,,,,,,,,,, that includes if it turns out the furl pipes are too small ect as ive not even vhecked that yet,,,,,,,, im not a child NOR am i REALLY ignorant in real life,,,,,,, im actually laid back and do admit when i wrong cause i learn from it,,,,,,,,,, thats what your ment to do i belive
07-02-2006, 11:08 PM
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comment one about the 60 quid,,,,,,,,, thats what he charged to check the fueling,,,,,,,,, i fitted a engine for a mate FOC,,,,,,,,,, dont mean you should
i HAVE NOT SAID scc are the cause of the pump failing,,,,,, hell not even im that thick,,,,,,, BUT if the pump was on its way out,,,,,,, i asked would that LOWER the fuel presure and so SCC raised it to normal,,,,,,,, when infact the pump was on its way out and in fact running more presure than it should cause the pump couldnt cope,,,, add driving over idle then you get no fuel,,,,,, or little fuel
again fuel presure is NOT what i belive caused the failing,,,,, i was sugesting that the pump was not flowing correct hence the lowered presure,,,,,,,,,, blah blah blah
if the reg wa at fault,,,,,, it was NOT touched by me,,,,,,, cause i dont know how there adjusted,,,,,,,,, iaint got a clue where you do it,,,,,,, that i can promise cause i aint got a clue what to do
turbo failing in such a way would that not cause it to scream and yelp,,,,,,,, or even loose power,,,,,, car never lost any power tbh but in all honesty we never went to high revs to see if it tailed off early,,,,,,,,,,, when it started to smoke that i could see it out the back window we turned back thinking head gasket
last point,,,,,,,,,, on the 2 engines ive had melt ive seen oil mix and slosh about causeing that,,,,,,,, both engines have melted pistons on the outside hence the compression and the lack oif smoke when cold at first i guess
BUT PLEASE REMEBER THAT IM NOT A MECHANIC AT ANY POINT !!!!
just going on what i seen and when backing off the gas and BLUE ONLY smoke covers the motorway like a james bond trick and you get that pop corn smell ive seen it go bad,,,,,,,,,,, mt cabrio has a fooked head gasket and the only problem with that is the idle is lumpy as fook,,,,,,,, its actually almost fine when going,,,,,,,,just dont do over a ton anymore
hope that answers the questions untill i get dirty,,,,,,,,,, i actually HOPE the head gasket is gone,,,,,, i would rather look a prick and have a engine i created still be going then loose all that time i spend dremeling out the engine and filling the port with water to test the cc
i HAVE NOT SAID scc are the cause of the pump failing,,,,,, hell not even im that thick,,,,,,, BUT if the pump was on its way out,,,,,,, i asked would that LOWER the fuel presure and so SCC raised it to normal,,,,,,,, when infact the pump was on its way out and in fact running more presure than it should cause the pump couldnt cope,,,, add driving over idle then you get no fuel,,,,,, or little fuel
again fuel presure is NOT what i belive caused the failing,,,,, i was sugesting that the pump was not flowing correct hence the lowered presure,,,,,,,,,, blah blah blah
if the reg wa at fault,,,,,, it was NOT touched by me,,,,,,, cause i dont know how there adjusted,,,,,,,,, iaint got a clue where you do it,,,,,,, that i can promise cause i aint got a clue what to do
turbo failing in such a way would that not cause it to scream and yelp,,,,,,,, or even loose power,,,,,, car never lost any power tbh but in all honesty we never went to high revs to see if it tailed off early,,,,,,,,,,, when it started to smoke that i could see it out the back window we turned back thinking head gasket
last point,,,,,,,,,, on the 2 engines ive had melt ive seen oil mix and slosh about causeing that,,,,,,,, both engines have melted pistons on the outside hence the compression and the lack oif smoke when cold at first i guess
BUT PLEASE REMEBER THAT IM NOT A MECHANIC AT ANY POINT !!!!
just going on what i seen and when backing off the gas and BLUE ONLY smoke covers the motorway like a james bond trick and you get that pop corn smell ive seen it go bad,,,,,,,,,,, mt cabrio has a fooked head gasket and the only problem with that is the idle is lumpy as fook,,,,,,,, its actually almost fine when going,,,,,,,,just dont do over a ton anymore
hope that answers the questions untill i get dirty,,,,,,,,,, i actually HOPE the head gasket is gone,,,,,, i would rather look a prick and have a engine i created still be going then loose all that time i spend dremeling out the engine and filling the port with water to test the cc
07-02-2006, 11:12 PM
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How about every one shutting the fuck up until the heads off and we know what has happened? 
Get the fucking head off and get some fucking pictures posted up for fuck sake! Every one can talk a good diagnosis and point the finger till the bastard drops off but it doesn't achieve fuck all does it?
Get the fucking head off and get some fucking pictures posted up for fuck sake!
Every one can talk a good diagnosis and point the finger till the bastard drops off but it doesn't achieve fuck all does it?
07-02-2006, 11:14 PM
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WELL!
Cheers to ginge for making me sound like a true chav
And that engine has run for more than 4k by the way.
rob - yes indeed i should have explained money was not a problem for any kind of fault found. If the set up had cost double i would have paid it.
The head will be coming off tomorrow at 6 when i get home from work. Stand by then for the pics/post.
Its completely true, assumptions should not be made till then, i was simply, going on the advice of pat/ginge and i believe rob (my apoligies if not), that mentioned piston was most likely.
I obviously really do hope its the gasket
And it was a cossie pump.
Also where can i get the pump tested? As obviosuly i dont want it happening again lol
Cheers to ginge for making me sound like a true chav
And that engine has run for more than 4k by the way.
rob - yes indeed i should have explained money was not a problem for any kind of fault found. If the set up had cost double i would have paid it.
The head will be coming off tomorrow at 6 when i get home from work. Stand by then for the pics/post.
Its completely true, assumptions should not be made till then, i was simply, going on the advice of pat/ginge and i believe rob (my apoligies if not), that mentioned piston was most likely.
I obviously really do hope its the gasket
And it was a cossie pump.
Also where can i get the pump tested? As obviosuly i dont want it happening again lol
08-02-2006, 08:37 AM
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How about every one shutting the fuck up until the heads off and we know what has happened?
Get the fucking head off and get some fucking pictures posted up for fuck sake! Every one can talk a good diagnosis and point the finger till the bastard drops off but it doesn't achieve fuck all does it?
Get the fucking head off and get some fucking pictures posted up for fuck sake!
Every one can talk a good diagnosis and point the finger till the bastard drops off but it doesn't achieve fuck all does it? 
08-02-2006, 10:12 AM
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Dont worry Rob, its my turn to be slagged off today:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2517989
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2517989
08-02-2006, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Dont worry Rob, its my turn to be slagged off today:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2517989
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2517989
Who's turn tomorrow i wonder
08-02-2006, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob@SCC Performance
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Dont worry Rob, its my turn to be slagged off today:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2517989
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2517989
Who's turn tomorrow i wonder
Ive tried watching eastenders, but its just SO dull compred to this forum
08-02-2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Rob@SCC Performance
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Dont worry Rob, its my turn to be slagged off today:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2517989
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2517989
Who's turn tomorrow i wonder
Ive tried watching eastenders, but its just SO dull compred to this forum
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No rob i requested forged pistons at whatever cost, you just went ahead and fitted the skimmed zetec standard ones
i also requested arp nut a bolt kit which was never fitted either
i also requested arp nut a bolt kit which was never fitted either
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Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
No rob i requested forged pistons at whatever cost, you just went ahead and fitted the skimmed zetec standard ones
i also requested arp nut a bolt kit which was never fitted either
i also requested arp nut a bolt kit which was never fitted either
Don't twist the facts to suit you - I was there, and I know EXACTLY what happened.
What you wanted, and what your Dad would let you have are two very different things.
08-02-2006, 05:42 PM
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carl:right,i want a wrc engine,no expense spared!
dad: listen rob,im paying for this,just rebuild the fooker as well as you can using the same bits!no carl we can NOT stop for icecream and sweeties on the way home!
08-02-2006, 05:50 PM
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carl:right,i want a wrc engine,no expense spared!
dad: listen rob,im paying for this,just rebuild the fooker as well as you can using the same bits!no carl we can NOT stop for icecream and sweeties on the way home!
08-02-2006, 05:56 PM
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not going to be able to take the head off today by the way!
going to a club up london in about 10 mins instead. let everyone know when i have enough bloody free time to take it off. Started today but didnt have enough time
going to a club up london in about 10 mins instead. let everyone know when i have enough bloody free time to take it off. Started today but didnt have enough time
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YOUR SO FUNNY pon
u dont know what ypur on about
was all my cash part from the last time which i paid my dad back a week later
I ASKED FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE FITTED
YOU did not fit theif you remeber i rang you several times asking for you to get those parts
then i ring to find out that u had built the engine without them
carl
u dont know what ypur on about
was all my cash part from the last time which i paid my dad back a week later
I ASKED FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE FITTED
YOU did not fit theif you remeber i rang you several times asking for you to get those parts
then i ring to find out that u had built the engine without them
carl
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What a load of old shit, if he didn't or couldn't build a zvh why did he say he would in the first place??
don't really know the ins an outs but i was there for that last journey up there , only for it to blow up for the 3rd time.
Was also there when he said eh had checked the fueling out on the road and it blew up on the fookin journey home due to a melted or cracked piston??
Also remember rob saying the only RST engine too have was a low-comp 1600, after the poor cunt had just spent 3k with you fookin hill billies!!
What a load of old shit, if he didn't or couldn't build a zvh why did he say he would in the first place??
don't really know the ins an outs but i was there for that last journey up there , only for it to blow up for the 3rd time.
Was also there when he said eh had checked the fueling out on the road and it blew up on the fookin journey home due to a melted or cracked piston??
Also remember rob saying the only RST engine too have was a low-comp 1600, after the poor cunt had just spent 3k with you fookin hill billies!!
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This still going on
I guess we should just wait and see what is really wrong with this engine
before jumping to any conclusions.
What happened to Marias car then ?
Last I heard she had a new engine, Dont hear much from her these days
I guess we should just wait and see what is really wrong with this engine
before jumping to any conclusions.
Originally Posted by b19bal
sorry but aint we loosing the plot here again
yoir calling ME your worst nightmare,,,,,,, sorry rob but when maria was slating your work for her job
yoir calling ME your worst nightmare,,,,,,, sorry rob but when maria was slating your work for her job
Last I heard she had a new engine, Dont hear much from her these days
