jr20516v

Hi All,
First post from this newbie.
I am restoring a 1989 2wd Cossie and due to old fuel in the tank ...read sludge ] i have decided to replace the fuel tank, fuel pum etc.... however my only problem is i cant source a fuel level sender unit anywhere :{
I have tried GG, Merlin, Burton but to no avail. So to help me track one down i have these queries if i may.....

1. does anyone know who has them in stock
2. Part number would be real handy
3. Are the Cossie and standard Sierra fuel level sender units exactly the same?

Any tips most welcome....as i have Googled my head off looking.

Mark V8

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jr20516v

Thx for that Mark... however i cannot access the lower half where the actual part #'s are. Also tried Microcat but had lots of warnings from my PC's security.
Any chance of telling me the part number from that page?
Thx again too :}

Mark V8

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Hi mate, Finis 1647686
I've got a really old copy of Microcat that only runs on Windows XP from a CD !

jr20516v

Your blood is worth bottling Mark....thx so much. Are these parts unobtainable now.
I can obtain a standard Sierra fuel level sender however i cant seem to find out if its the same part on a Cossie. One would think they are the same ??

Mark V8

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I think it was fitted to other Sierras as well with EFI, most Sierras were different as the fuel take off was through the sender. Got mine through Ford years ago and it had to come from Germany.
Try these people
https://www.fordpartsuk.com/request-parts
If not any Ford dealer that has access to the Edix system should be able to track one down wherever it is in the world.

jr20516v

Thats a great help Mark. I will contact them

There is actually one on Ebay for Sierra part # FUE 0039 however the sellers dont know if its good for a Cossie and Doctor Google doesnt help much either.
PS: The Finis 1647686 number you kindly supplied had no success :{

Mark V8

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No good mate, you have to make sure there are no fuel take offs through the top of the sender as a Cossie take off is at the bottom of the tank.

jr20516v

Mmmmm I thought that was the case. Sent Ford uk a love note and will await there reply....failing that its slash the wrists time ;]

jr20516v

While i am at it....what do you UK boys call the square clear light next to the amber indicator light on the front lower ? This seems a rarish part as well....fog light? driving light?
Is there a description that will bring a better response on ebay etc?

Mark V8

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If you mean the rectangular ones in the bumper they are fog lights, Cosworth ones are the same as any Mk2 Sierra or Mk3 Granada but all the new old stock ones have Cosworth tax !

jr20516v

Cossie tax !!..... LOL love it.

Appreciate that Mark as it broadens my search. Mine has a small hole in one which fails on a MOT.

jr20516v

Hi Mark,
Just had a good look at the car [its a long way away ] and yes the take offs are at the bottom of the tank however the fuel level sender unit is at the top of the tank and has nothing to do with take offs.........
Fordpartsuk...thx for that link...have replied and yes they do have one however it is big $$$$
So i need to exhaust all avenues for generic ones [usually a lot cheaper ] before i bite the bullet with Fordpartsuk
Any tips ? it looks like an ordinary fuel level sender unit to me.

jr20516v

LOL... i just Googled Fordpartsuk's part # 1674686 and got catalytic converter for the Sierra !! I am glad i didnt buy it taking their word for it without checking.

Mark V8

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You got a couple of numbers mixed up!
1647686 is what you want, not 1674686
I'll go through my stash of parts this weekend and get you picture of the right part and part number, message me if I forget!

jr20516v

You are a gem Mark !! Look forward to it.

Mark V8

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Seal is for where the fuel filler pipe fits in the tank, they go hard and leak once disturbed.

jr20516v

Thats the baby i need Mark. I dont know what they smoke at Fordpartsuk as they would have sent me the incorrect part [cat converter ] after me giving them the correct 1647686 part#........after an email to them they have now corrected the hiccup and kindly included the seal as well [part # 6085380 ] however they included the courier cost of a a staggering 90 quid..... my fuel tank arrived from the UK yesterday and the courier cost via Fedex was 120 quid.....a BIG difference in size/cubic metreage and weight. Go figure !!! LOL

jr20516v

Also Mark is there anywhere else i should try for this fuel level sender unit....or is it such a rare part that i should just bite the bullet and run with Fordpartsuk even with their huge courier fee?

Mark V8

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If they can supply one, I would buy it!

Don't pay the £90 though and get it sent to me, I can check it against mine and make sure they have not sent the wrong part - would be easier to send back if they screw up.

If it's good I'll get a price to send to you if you are OK with covering my costs

jr20516v

Wow !! That is such a kind gesture Mark. I will wait to i hear from them to see if they have revised the courier cost... if not Plan B it is :}

jr20516v

All good Mark. Forduk reduced the courier fee from 89 to 79 quid. However they said i could arrange my own courier which i did......25 quid !! Go figure.. Now they have told me it will be 5 to 10 days for them to actually get the part. Its been a long drawn out thing but it is good now that i know its sorted.
Next item i have to track down is the drivers side indicator and fog light lenses [mine have a stone crack in each one and dont pass MOT :{

2wd

Hi .. Does anyone know if this sender ( 6134923 ) will fit in the mounting hole in the tank for a 88 Sap. Cosworth ... I think its for at V6 .. and it has 2 tubes going into the tank, but otherwise it looks alot like the one pictured above .. ? If so maybe I could seal off the 2 tubes ... ?

Also the fuel filler tube to the tank ( 83BB-9034-AC-61201 ) .. maybe also for a V6 .. could this be used for a 88 Sap. Cosworth .. ?

jr20516v

Hi Mark again........... i am thinking of purchasing these Sierra Cossie fog light lens from Russia eBay item number:
113543904341

Have you heard anything good/bad about these items.... i guess they are an exact copy/replica.....do you know if they fit?

Any help appreciated as always
John in OZ

Mark V8

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Can't answer on the V6 parts as never tried, if the sender fits the hole in theory it would work with the pipes blocked.

Don't know about the fog lamp lenses either, they are held in with some mastic so I doubt they would need to be perfect.

If you stick the old lamps in the oven a 70 degrees for a while the lenses come off easily.

jr20516v

In previous posts you mentioned buying these Russian fog lens from Ebay..... do they look the goods to you and hopefully will they replace the existing OE ones. In short....are these any good have you heard?

Mark V8

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I think someone on the Ford Sierra owners forum had a pair from Russia.
Can't remember who though, might be worth signing up and asking...
http://forum.fordsierraclub.co.uk/

jr20516v

Cheers for that Mark. Have joined :]
Do you have any part numbers for the font fog lights and also indicators. The indicators i received from UK are incorrect from Ebay. Did they change on models as mine is a 1989...Mark 2....yet it has amber indicators ???

Mark V8

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1989 should be amber I think, not sure when they changed to clear.
Part numbers for clear in pic below
Fogs are 6126035
I think I paid around £150 for my set on Ebay

jr20516v

Thats a great help....thank you Sir !!

jr20516v

Update: My fuel level sender unit arrived from Ford UK....they were very efficient.
Also i have received my fog light lenses [the Russian ones ]...........they are 70% of the size of the ones on the car. Damn !! Another wasted time and money.

Mark V8

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I mentioned on the Sierra owners forum that the year you gave for the manufacture of your car meant you have been getting a load of crap advice - including from me

1989 would have been a Sapphire Cosworth, not a 3 door and this is the route of all your problems.

As yours is a 3 door Cosworth, you are going to need to search differently for fog lights and indicators etc

3 door shared fog lights with Escort Cosworth, not sure on indicators though.

Expect a good wallet raping

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cosworth-...cMw:rk:12:pf:0

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Esco...YcF0:rk:2:pf:0

jr20516v

Arrrghhh....the joys of Cossie ownership. Crap advice maybe but well intentioned.

Wallet raping....LOL........... WOW, & Ouch !!

bart180sx

just wondering if you ever got sorted with fuel tank sender?
im in the same situation myself now and cant seem to find one anywhere

eliotmezo

Hi folks, recently repaired my fuel sender. The car had been standing for a long time without any fuel in it, so the inside of the tank had condensation inside it which oxidised the brass on the float arm. I've made this video which shows the steps i went through and the resistance readings you can expect from a sender which may help you repair your own.

HidetoshiNemoto

This is super helpful!!!

HidetoshiNemoto

Saw this one, 6134923, luckily I didn't bid on it.... checked it wasn't the correct one for Sapphire Cosworth.

But it's crazy though.... sold for £205, hope the one who won the bid wasn't purchasing it for the Cosworth.....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-sier...p2047675.l2557