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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Im on about the rear camber shims.How much did you get them for.
Oh ok bud Ł27 posted from Bettinson2005 on ford sierra owners
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Today after 2 week ends of shit weather I managed to finish my garage roof so I can now start my conversion but 1st after advise from Ade500 I put engine on engine stand spun it upside down to whip sump off and check bearings and main bearings and chain all seems gd and bottom end looks new.
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Picked up another rear beam got it shot blasted and had it seam welded then powder coated red will be starting conversion this week end Friday/Saturday/Sunday/Monday

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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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If any one can help I appreciate it I need 7.5" diff bolts to mount in beam and need engine mount bolts?
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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I bolted mounts too engine cradle and when I was about to mount to the engine arms guess what the arms are too long.....

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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 08:32 PM
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my engine mounts are 545mm centre to centre but the arms on engine are 620mm centre to centre so too long
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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So now my whole weekends fucked and got to source a shorter set of arms.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 09:17 PM
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i dont want to fuck your easter up anymore but, is that a 7.5" rear beam? 7 and 7.5 are different. as for the arms are you using the twin cam items? try the originals.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by YOREVOL
i dont want to fuck your easter up anymore but, is that a 7.5" rear beam? 7 and 7.5 are different. as for the arms are you using the twin cam items? try the originals.
For your 1st question, yes 7.5" beam I have a 7.5" diff to go with it.
For your 2nd question, no twin can arms will not bolt to a v6 engine block I'm using original Boa arms but they are too long.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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i used the original mk2 granada arms when i put a bob in my mk2 granada. what subframe are you using?
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Originally Posted by YOREVOL
i used the original mk2 granada arms when i put a bob in my mk2 granada. what subframe are you using?
XR4i subframe but was told standard Boa would be ok obviously not as distance between engine mounts is 545mm and with Boa arms fitted too engine distance between mounting holes is 620mm
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looks like you need to find some 4i arms. are you using original 4i mounts? i need to know if uprated 4x4 mounts fit.
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Originally Posted by YOREVOL
looks like you need to find some 4i arms. are you using original 4i mounts? i need to know if uprated 4x4 mounts fit.
I'm using set of used XR4i mounts at moment just to get engine in but once fitted and running will swap for cossie 4x4 vibra tech
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i looked at vibratech but read somewhere on here that they lift the engine up too far on a 4i. i await yours being fitted and a definite answer. good luck with engine fitting.
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Originally Posted by YOREVOL
i looked at vibratech but read somewhere on here that they lift the engine up too far on a 4i. i await yours being fitted and a definite answer. good luck with engine fitting.
Ade used vibra tech mount with XR4i subframe and arms

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He was using floflex till they melted

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Right help please what are those box's and do I need that bit of the loom with the big blue plug and what is it for?
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The blue plug, don't know, but not needed to run the engine. Think that splits from the engine loom quite easy



The black lump attached to the metal bit, egr sensor parts I think, needed to be plugged in , but ports blanked off.



Can't find the photo of my loom laid out,


Can sort something out and pop round tommorow if you want, would be 2 ish, if that's any good?
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Originally Posted by Fil
The blue plug, don't know, but not needed to run the engine. Think that splits from the engine loom quite easy



The black lump attached to the metal bit, egr sensor parts I think, needed to be plugged in , but ports blanked off.



Can't find the photo of my loom laid out,


Can sort something out and pop round tommorow if you want, would be 2 ish, if that's any good?
Yeah that's cool still don't understand doh lol i'll txt you my address bud
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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Cheers for your help yesterday Fil nice to meet you we will get there lol!
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 01:26 PM
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The loom as it now sits still not finished.
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Wiring looms are a nightmare.Your dog looks cute.
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Cheers he the dogs lol
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Anyone doing this conversion who is in need of a propshaft!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierr...item43b77d3b62
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These arrived today may have them fitted today or tomorrow at the latest,
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Rear drive shaft zinc plated bolts,
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Zinc plated front hub pinch bolts and suspension shock bolt,
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Update; Right I have managed to get a set of XR4i arms thanks to Lee2cossies, so build is back on they should be here Monday/Tuesday hopefully.
I'm after an ECU and Exhaust that is all I need for my build.
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Arms arrived today and lucky for me I happened to finish early so got subframe mounted!
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Things are soon to be in full gear now my schedule is this weather dependant of coarse;

Friday evening disconnect/unplug and remove engine loom and ancillaries from saph fit new spigot bearing and sandwich plate then fit 2.8 flywheel, mount 6paddle ap racing clutch and bolt hybrid gearbox to engine.

Saturday remove engine/gearbox/prop/and all 4x4 running gear from saph then remove non abs servo/mc and refit an abs servo/mc then fit/mount BOA into engine bay and pipe up what I can.

Sunday fit 2wd front hubs/brakes/arb/tca's refit wheels, remove 7" rear beam/arms/diff/handbrake cable and refit new powder coated 7.5" rear beam/arms/diff handbrake cable, refit wheels.

Then it's a matter of waiting for my specially adapted abs loom to come back to be fitted and my boa to sierra engine loom.
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Originally Posted by doga-ot
So now my whole weekends fucked and got to source a shorter set of arms.
Sorry Wes.

I'm going to take some of the responsibility for that.

Although I did see you write somewhere, like you already knew, that you use the arms to suit the cross-member?

I used BOA arms, but used a BOA cross-member, but sure I have read that they will go on a standard one?

Any way, glad you got sorted in the end and things can move on.
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Originally Posted by mk22door
Sorry Wes.

I'm going to take some of the responsibility for that.

Although I did see you write somewhere, like you already knew, that you use the arms to suit the cross-member?

I used BOA arms, but used a BOA cross-member, but sure I have read that they will go on a standard one?

Any way, glad you got sorted in the end and things can move on.
Its ok bud I'm not going to go pointing fingers but I was right in what I 1st thought however I was led to believe by a number of people that I was wrong, so gave up looking for xr4i arms don't matter now its sorted cheers though bud do need help with wiring though serious help lol
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I'm afraid wiring an engine loom into an existing loom is not my area at all, I threw in the entire Granada loom to get it running and that was crazy enough - and I had major help with that LOL!, I started with a a completely bare Saff.

Good luck with it all.
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I have an idea in my head if its right I hope it is I should be ok if not fuck knows lol.
The wires I think go into the car if I'm right I have to work out what wires are what on sierra loom going to original ecu then connect them to the same on the boa loom but theres a few i'm unsure of. I know I got to connect a wire or 2 to fuel pump, and to handbrake/brake pedal and wire to clocks for rev counter
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Found this on the FSOC

I don't know if it's gospel but seems legit

Originally Posted by Jeroen
If you got the three multiplugs behind the battery then it's easy; all you need is there

Ignition feed
Alternator light
Oil pressure light
Coolant temp gauge
Fuel pump relay coil +
Fuel pump relay coil -
VSS
Brakelight switch
Tacho

Hope it helps, get it cross referenced by someone else who has more of a clue
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Originally Posted by mk22door
Found this on the FSOC

I don't know if it's gospel but seems legit




Hope it helps, get it cross referenced by someone else who has more of a clue

that did apply to my loom and my random sketches i had, but when we was looking at Wes's he didnt have the 3 plugs, basically we think, an earlier loom, with viarious plugs, same cables but to several different plugs now
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