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Old 23-01-2013, 11:38 PM
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Wha are by injectors like to run in a saph 2wd cossy? My reason for asking is that iam on greens now but am wanting more power so thinking greys and a bigger chip but a mate of mine said his used to seem to over fuel when cold on grey sand needed the odd plug changed.
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Greys run fine if mapped correctly

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Old 24-01-2013, 08:09 AM
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I wouldn't bother with them again
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I wouldn't bother with greys also
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Siemens blacks is what you want Modern bigger injector that doesn't cost the earth and fits straight into the rail.
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Originally Posted by rog
Siemens blacks is what you want Modern bigger injector that doesn't cost the earth and fits straight into the rail.
If you can get them

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i'll sell you mine Ł1200....

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not a thing wrong with greys if set up correctly,
i ran with greys for years and never had a problem,
was on the same plugs for years too
Old 24-01-2013, 06:40 PM
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i'll be using greys on mine, because they can bought cheap, and there easy to come by.
as said good mapping on the right spec, i dont see a problem,
i'll be going to MSD for my setup.
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i run greys and again runs fine with no plug issues. did have mine mapped though which helps no end.
Old 24-01-2013, 07:39 PM
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Yep greys for me too, ran perfect
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Originally Posted by cossie4i+
If you can get them

Steve
a guy on here could get as set of siemens 55s think his name on here is bart
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Mine is on Greys live mapped by NMS and is perfect!

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Originally Posted by matthewpickup
a guy on here could get as set of siemens 55s think his name on here is bart


You sure it wasn't Homer
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Originally Posted by Tarren
You sure it wasn't Homer
will check my messages the now
Old 24-01-2013, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tarren
You sure it wasn't Homer
nope it was bart , think he was getting them from a shop
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Originally Posted by matthewpickup
nope it was bart , think he was getting them from a shop
Old 24-01-2013, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by H15 FSC

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Originally Posted by matthewpickup
nope it was bart , think he was getting them from a shop


Apu Nahasapeemapetilon from the Kwik-E-Mart
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Originally Posted by Tarren
Apu Nahasapeemapetilon from the Kwik-E-Mart
pmsl
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lol , i take it theres something not right?
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he was just taking the piss with the simpsons names bud,
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haha i just seen that as i was scrolling down , i am such a dum ass lol
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Iv also had greens and now on greys livemapped by PJ motorsport yes its fast but the engine sounded a lot better on greens though get it livemapped mate its much better on fuel and makes a lot more power on lower boost lol.
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Originally Posted by matthewpickup
haha i just seen that as i was scrolling down , i am such a dum ass lol


Easy done mate was wondering when you was going to get it

Next up was Marge and Sideshow Bob
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Originally Posted by Tarren
Easy done mate was wondering when you was going to get it

Next up was Marge and Sideshow Bob
haha
Old 24-01-2013, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tarren
Easy done mate was wondering when you was going to get it

Next up was Marge and Sideshow Bob
excellent ( in the voice of mr burns)
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I never liked the idea of the spray nozzle being chopped off so effectively dumping fuel into the motor, the shit mine used to kick out on greys was horrendous - seems odd to still use an old injector when modern equipment is available, yes they may work but Siemens work better and you have the extra scope for upgrading which you don't beyond 450 on 403's.

Best ask a tuner and see what they say
Old 25-01-2013, 10:29 AM
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Everytime I here someone mention greys, everyone jumps up with "get siemens 55 injectors or whatever ones they are and everyone then goes on to say, you cannot get them anymore.. which kind of leaves this debate dead in the ground. My Escort runs greys and has been live mapped. I get around 250 miles to a tank of super unleaded with some hard driving and some pootling around. A good amount of my miles is done on a cold engine. I am happy enough with that, it also goes like stink and greys can be had with relative ease. Everyone said bore wash etc would be an issue but a recent ctlinder test on my car has found the engine to be in great shape... I think the greys get hyped up with bad press like some other bits.
Old 25-01-2013, 10:32 AM
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turbosystems had some siemens 83s new if there any good for yer and if he as any left ( limited stock ) when i got mine from him
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We will have a small supply of 55s very soon.
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If only Tabetha could see this thread

A lot of tuners can NOT map greys properly which is what leads to over fueling, Siemens are newer and are supposed to have a better spray pattern.

Imo it's best to go with a set of Siemens 55, simply adding bigger injectors will not give you more power though

Do you still have a T3 turbo?

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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
We will have a small supply of 55s very soon.
how much are these?,
and are they really that much better than greys,
as ive got some greys is it worth spending the extra for these?
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no, greys are fine as long as the caps are cut off.

Were not sure on price yet as they havent landed.
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Cannot comment on greys but I went from greens on a pre programmed chip to 55's and a live map off Tony@Turbosystems.

Returned better mpg, runs cleaner and goes alot quicker lol
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
no, greys are fine as long as the caps are cut off.

Were not sure on price yet as they havent landed.
Will be intrested in a set when they arrive,why is there such a short supply of these 55 injectors?
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They don't make them anymore
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No iam on a t34/48, 31 actuator, big cooler etc etc

Originally Posted by martysmartie
If only Tabetha could see this thread

A lot of tuners can NOT map greys properly which is what leads to over fueling, Siemens are newer and are supposed to have a better spray pattern.

Imo it's best to go with a set of Siemens 55, simply adding bigger injectors will not give you more power though

Do you still have a T3 turbo?

Martin
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
They don't make them anymore
Why? Won't they even make a replacement injector for 55's? Atleast there's demand for injectors like Siemens 55's and 83's so it seems a bit odd that they don't make 'em anymore.
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Because Siemens are only interested in making injectors that will sell 10s of thousands.

To them selling a few hundred sets is not even worth the tooling costs


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