Hi Folks

Ive been driving my cossy to work and getting a bit fed up with these front lights they are crap (brand new aswell), they are just like candles and thats it even with higher rated bulbs fitted

I think its time to do something about it ..... is there anything out there (kits) that i could use to uprate these candles ..lol..

i have to do something soon



cheers Marco

 

Ryan fitted Audi TT hid units into his

F@@k knows how, but they were very good

 

alright Rich

ill have to give him a call what about xenon (spellling) kit ??

 

I'd try a proper cheap set of hid's.

4300k will be nice and white.
Will be 1000 times better.

 

hid kits are pants on normal headlights as they through beam spray everywhere blinding every fooker and a sure fire way for a tug or MOT fail

 

HID's will fail MoT on a 3dr because they don't have headlight washers or self-levelling headlights/suspension

 

what about stick xenons in the back of the lights.....? you can strips these 3dr lights down

 

theres got to be somthing out there seriously these 3 door lights are rubbish esp when your on the motorway when nothing is lite up lmao

marco

 

Set up properley there fine, if you were to try a set of 4300 35w im sure you'd see a massive difference.
Set the beam pattern right they'll be alot better.

I've personally only retro fitted HID's to headlights with the factor projectors in, the beam is perfect. And can't be failed on a mot.

If you feel the headlights on your 3 door are that poor its gotta be worth a try imo.

Alot of glare issues people see with retro fitted HIDS on older cars is just down to poor fitment, as theres alot of people out there that can't even fit a standard headlight bulb, which are just as blinding fitted wrongly imo.

I've been blinded on the road by factory fitted HIDS tbh.

 

Ain't gonna start a argument about it on here, I think you'll find if washers or self leveling ain't fitted it can't be tested so can't fail.

 

Just try a cheap Ł25 quid set. Its not gonna break the bank.
Plug and play.

 

Hi mate

where do you get them from ill try it and see got to be better than fook all

a

 

Just search on .bay.
Put in h4 hid kit/ conversion.
3drs are h4's?

Just try 35w, 4300k are nice and white.

You'll end up changing sidelight and numberplate bulbs for led versions too.

 

The problem is you can't "set" the beam pattern. The 3dr, and older cars with the glass lenses, have ribs and lines to disperse the beam, and with a HID, the bulbs are 300% brighter than the bulbs the headlights were designed for, so you're going to get scatter and glare no matter what you do.

I put a retrofit HID kit into my Lexus recently as the dipped beam on it is shite. However, a car without headlamp washers and self-levelling headlights/suspension WILL fail it's MoT, as these are the stipulations of running HID's. Don't ask me why, because it seems stupid, but those are the stipulations in the MoT.

Most glare and scatter from retro fit HID kits' comes from the fact that the cars they are fitting them into, don't have reflectors designed for the much brighter HID bulbs. For example my IS200 - the reflectors in that are designed to take the normal bulbs light, and direct it both up and down, and there are ridges in the reflector bulb for this. But the IS300, which had HID's as standard, had different ridges in the bottom half of the reflector bowl, so as to limit the upward reflection. Sit them both side by side, both with 4300k (or 5000k, 6000k) and the difference is noticeable.

Factory HID's can still glare, but nowhere near as badly as retrofit kits, and is one of the biggest reasons that projector headlights came to be - they focus the light into a much better beam with a near perfect straight line cut off barely higher than the bonnet/base of the windscreen, massively reducing glare and no scatter at all. If I had the time and money, I'd definitely be retrofitting a custom set of projectors into my car's headlights! All the light is focused evenly across the road with no dark patches or "lines" in the light, so you just get a 'solid' field of light. And you can almost look directly at a projector without being blinded or getting arc-eye, thanks to how it diffuses the light through it's lens.

 

where do you get 35w 4300k from ???? i have uprated bulds in the 3dr but i dont think its these

 

thrush

what do you recon then to fit theres got to be something out there ???? better than normal

 

Thats the hid kit id look for

 

PM'd

 

If you want a HID kit, and don't care about scatter, glare, or the MoT (or your mate is the MoT tester ) then I'd go for something like this;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H1-H4-H7-H...item1e73e044aa

(working on the assumption the 3dr uses a H4 bulb - I've no idea, but a quick google suggests they do)

Otherwise you could look at LED/SMD bulbs, or Osram Nightbreakers (which are mentioned on here a lot)

 

ive bought some now ... my main concern is the front light dash bulb might show its blown and therse stay on ??

marco

 

What did you get?

 

If fitted as standard (new cars only) the washer system will have to work. self level don't come into it . So if you fit hid to 3dr as long as you meet required beam pattern and height no prob go for it

 

Just make sure h/lamps are set up right . I.e height / beam angle . Mine in. 3dr are a bit crap but useable , but been spoit drivin wife's 5 series m sport

 

rewire your standard lights with new wire it makes a big difference

 

I fitted HID's to my saff. They were crap

The sapped all battery power causing it to drive like shit. I removed them that night and luckily I had took my original bulbs with me and re fit them.

 

Fit the orsam night breakers, or the best ones in Halfords that are still road legal. IME they're almost as bright as HIDs, and far more reliable

 

I want hids in my 3 door but don't know what kit to get

 

Agreed , or use the old wire to trigger a relay with a direct feed from battery and good set of h4 bulbs

 

A bit thick here have you got a diagram how to do it

 

new headlights are pointless, if the wire is the same old 'n rotten one like someone said before.

Clean the earth cable or rewire it and I guess you will se some differences.

Osram Nightbreakers are great, white light, even with shorter durability like other "candle" lights but better have white light for shorter time than "candle-ish" light for plenty, plenty years.

 

Sounds like a great idea, if your good with wiring it's easy if your like me it's like brain surgery

 

Disregarding the present day legalities, the BBR Mogul conversions used to do this and use relays and 100/55 conventional bulbs I believe. I did the same in my old XR4i and the difference was very noticeable on main beam. Obviously, full beam was used only when someone wasn't coming the other way.
Can't condone it though as 100w bulbs are illegal for road use

 

alright mate

seriously they are set up right newish lights the wiring is in great condtion


like you said they are just about useable thatas about it i want them alot brighter thats all

 

i bought some H4 4300k im going to try them at the end of the day i got nothing to lose


if they dont work that well ive spoke to ryan about fitting the audi tt lights inside the 3dr unit trust me thats does work


marco

 

alright mate


i understand what your saying there is nothing wrong with the wiring

my lights work fine but they are just not bright enough for me


ive been using My Audi A4 s line and the lights on that are amzing

when i drive the 3dr they are terrible compasired to the audi

i keep puting the main beam on just to check that the lights are on lol

 

guys

ill let you know the outcome either way something going to happen

 

Didn't mean using a higher watt bulb just a good quality ones , marco have you checked the vaults ? You might one have 12v , with a rewire using direct feed from batt you could get 14v which you make a difference on standard quality bulbs

 

plus even tho the wiring "looks" ok does not mean it is, at the end of the day it will still be damn near 30 year old wires that have built up a fair bit of resistance with age, just like the fuel pump wiring which as we know when old can cause voltage under load to drop significantley (sp)

 

http://randbmotorsport.co.uk/shop/Parts.asp?ID=19

 

Hi Jonhy

when the engine is running from what ive tested says 13.8/9 volts so it seems the wiring is ok


ive got a pic on my phone here whe Ryan fitted the audi lights inside the 3dr lights he said it was amazing the differance between night and day