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Old 02-10-2010, 06:28 PM
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i got a 2wd saff and going to be doing a few trackdays /santa pod and the odd burnout at pod

im going for power of about 400bhp-450bhp ,ive bought a rear beam ,had it powder coated and new poly bushes and got new coilovers to go on too

what diff do you have and think are best for the 2wd

rough prices please
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Glad this post came up i want to upgrade - what are TITAN like ????
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Mines a quaiffe atb and i love it,mines 4x4 though.
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i paid Ł700 off thomps second hand chris
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Mines a quaiffe atb and i love it,mines 4x4 though.
what gearbox do you run then mate?
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:19 PM
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welded standard diff
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The atb is best as said above,around the Ł1100 mark all done..


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herd good things about eton diffs lots of people starting to use them over here!
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herd good things about eton diffs lots of people starting to use them over here!
Around 4-500 quid new from the us
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Go for a titan gripper Daz
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Originally Posted by BIG WULL
what gearbox do you run then mate?
Just a standard good condition box m8,got front and rear quaiffe atb diffs,hoping the t38 will be kind to my box lol.
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:09 AM
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Could always try a gripper diff.
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I had a Quaife on my saff and it was superb, i'd have another without fail.

Bara are good too.....
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
Glad this post came up i want to upgrade - what are TITAN like ????
IMO not all that tested yet.

I'd go with something proven although the Titan I heard is cheap.
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Just a standard good condition box m8,got front and rear quaiffe atb diffs,hoping the t38 will be kind to my box lol.
oh nice!
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I run similar power and occasionally use it on track - two standard diffs in two years but number 3 is holding up well.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:07 PM
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Andy, wouldn't it be easier/cheaper just to fit an uprated one bud?? you'll just kep popping them else imo....
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i have a gripper with an up rated crown wheel and pinion carnt fault it at all top diff
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Andy, what power is your car and is it still on the Standard box too??
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Originally Posted by Pete 3dr
Andy, what power is your car and is it still on the Standard box too??
Around 500 with around the same torque and no i have a big tooth gearbox from cts
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Originally Posted by derekd
Around 4-500 quid new from the us
you got a link to these diff's?
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
Around 500 with around the same torque and no i have a big tooth gearbox from cts
Good man....

This is why i ask, all these folks going for 500bhp odd they seem to forget about saving pennies for a box.... ok i guess if it's not launched etc it'll last, BUT i wouldn't like to be pushing 450-500 ft'lb through one for long tbh...
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Hi Pete, I too have a CTS box... and a bara or similar diff will be got one day I'm sure - still have two standard ones in my spares bin mind you.
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Originally Posted by Pete 3dr
Good man....

This is why i ask, all these folks going for 500bhp odd they seem to forget about saving pennies for a box.... ok i guess if it's not launched etc it'll last, BUT i wouldn't like to be pushing 450-500 ft'lb through one for long tbh...
ha ha yep it is a lottery i did my box and diff with 350! then did the crown wheel and pinion with 500 and i dont drive like a twat realy or do launchs took all the teeth off the cwp in second coming off a roundabout
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So how much are the CTS ones guys?? sorry to be nosey..

I may have winter plans you see,,,,
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Originally Posted by Pete 3dr
So how much are the CTS ones guys?? sorry to be nosey..

I may have winter plans you see,,,,
I was lucky and got mine secondhand off a new track car that caught fire at Coombe... think they redo a box for around Ł700 Pete.
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Originally Posted by Pete 3dr
So how much are the CTS ones guys?? sorry to be nosey..

I may have winter plans you see,,,,
i payed 1200 for mine with no vat
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i broke 2 diffs in a week.....so fitted a gripper diff from bara all good but fook its noisey when turning slowly.
seems to hold together fine ive got a 6dagree beam fitted too which is very good!
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
you got a link to these diff's?
The Eaton is the clutch-type differential, and the Detroit is the same thing as the Quaife (helical):

http://www.mc2racing.com/products/xr...als/index.html

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http://www.mc2racing.com/tech/20081104a/index.html
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i got a quaife atb on my 3dr,direct from quaife themselves also got a life-time warrantee too,it might be up 4 grabs if i go ahead with my palns peeps....
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
i payed 1200 for mine with no vat
were did you get it at?
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Originally Posted by Grayson
The Eaton is the clutch-type differential, and the Detroit is the same thing as the Quaife (helical):

http://www.mc2racing.com/products/xr...als/index.html

Install guide:

http://www.mc2racing.com/tech/20081104a/index.html
I have one of this Eaton on my car and have driven with it for two years now.
On track and road, and works just perfect.
I think it is even better than the Quaife diffs.
Regards Tommy J
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Originally Posted by paddyrs
were did you get it at?
CTS Its the same box mad ad has so can stand up too some real power!
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There's a guy over here who has made a Toyota Supra diff a bolt in affair...The diffs are very strong and cheap as chips. 4 pinion instead of 2....Anyone that wants info I'll post up it up.
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Originally Posted by thebronze
There's a guy over here who has made a Toyota Supra diff a bolt in affair...The diffs are very strong and cheap as chips. 4 pinion instead of 2....Anyone that wants info I'll post up it up.

Please do

Love a bit of innitiative when it comes to tuning
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Originally Posted by thebronze
There's a guy over here who has made a Toyota Supra diff a bolt in affair...The diffs are very strong and cheap as chips. 4 pinion instead of 2....Anyone that wants info I'll post up it up.
please do!
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