Rose Jointed Top Mounts
27-04-2009, 07:36 AM
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Rose Jointed Top Mounts
I've seen these on Ebay and wondered if anyone who reads on here is running a set of them on their own car. If so, what is your opinion on them.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cosworth-ROSE-...1%7C240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cosworth-ROSE-...1%7C240%3A1318
This is a Group N spec replica top mount. It uses the standard rubber or poly top mount bush but removes the standard bearing and the cone. It allows the top mount to sit flat even when the car has a lot of camber.
The picture of the mount fitted to a car shows the top ring with cutouts and this is how they will be supplied.
Made from aircraft spec aluminium.
The pictures do not have the bearing inserted as I pictured the sample that has been sent to me, but the price does include the bearing.
There are no modifications needed to fit them. You might have to jack the strut up to get it through the bush to tighten the top ring on.
You MUST put some copper slip grease on the threads of the rings to stop them chemical welding themselves together.
Mostly suited to track cars.
The picture of the mount fitted to a car shows the top ring with cutouts and this is how they will be supplied.
Made from aircraft spec aluminium.
The pictures do not have the bearing inserted as I pictured the sample that has been sent to me, but the price does include the bearing.
There are no modifications needed to fit them. You might have to jack the strut up to get it through the bush to tighten the top ring on.
You MUST put some copper slip grease on the threads of the rings to stop them chemical welding themselves together.
Mostly suited to track cars.
29-04-2009, 02:14 PM
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There's a bit of blurb on these in the New Product Pages ( page 27 ) of the latest Fast Ford mag - June 09 edition if anyone is interested.
29-04-2009, 02:39 PM
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These are the bollox mate, i have a set for my escos when its done and went round castle combe on saturday in a Rs500 that has a set in. Well worth the money 
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29-04-2009, 08:07 PM
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i have the 909 one's on mine but cant comment on how good they are as they car's still in the garage, see them on rapid ford's stand at central day and they look well made,
30-04-2009, 07:39 AM
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I am trying to do all the handling aspects of mine and am just trying to evaluate any part that might make a difference before making a call as to whether to go down that route.
Like any car, it's often the accumulation of a lot of 'little effects' that go towards the end result. Don't want to make it overly harsh so it still handles and rides well on typical UK roads
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And as Mike says, a combination of many handling changes will make your car corner better. Polybushes, solid beam mounts, diff mount, springs, dampers, ARBs, rear beam mods, camber changes, etc etc.
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30-04-2009, 06:28 PM
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Very true. I thought the top mounts are designed to provide a better mounting when your geometry is different - so the top of the strut is mounted in something that is designed to pivot more than the original Ford top mount. I'm not sure they'll add much to your handling but if you are changing your suspension then you should consider these, or adjustable plates at the top of the strut.
And as Mike says, a combination of many handling changes will make your car corner better. Polybushes, solid beam mounts, diff mount, springs, dampers, ARBs, rear beam mods, camber changes, etc etc.
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And as Mike says, a combination of many handling changes will make your car corner better. Polybushes, solid beam mounts, diff mount, springs, dampers, ARBs, rear beam mods, camber changes, etc etc.
Charlie
I suspect quite a few people run extra front -ve camber with the adjustable TCAs
Found some more info on the Traders forum re these
When you take the shock out of the hub the shock will still firmly point at the hub it was removed from, as the std top mount has a cone that is pulled into the strut top. So when you adjust the camber or caster you are forcing it to sit in another position so the strut top is under pressure. This will wear the bush and bearings and crack the top cone which is quite common.
These Rose Jointed Top Mounts replace the std top mount but use the std bush without any drilling or mods. They allow full movement of the shock without it twisting the top mount when adjusting the camber and caster like on a std setup, but unlike the normal aftermarket solid top mounts which remove the bush and becomes a little harsh and will wear the shell.
After fitting them it's quite amazing how much proper movement is available.
These Rose Jointed Top Mounts replace the std top mount but use the std bush without any drilling or mods. They allow full movement of the shock without it twisting the top mount when adjusting the camber and caster like on a std setup, but unlike the normal aftermarket solid top mounts which remove the bush and becomes a little harsh and will wear the shell.
After fitting them it's quite amazing how much proper movement is available.
https://passionford.com/forum/ford-r...cs-fitted.html
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Cheers for the info Ronnie? Where did you get your 909 ones from and were they a lot cheaper?
I am trying to do all the handling aspects of mine and am just trying to evaluate any part that might make a difference before making a call as to whether to go down that route.
Like any car, it's often the accumulation of a lot of 'little effects' that go towards the end result. Don't want to make it overly harsh so it still handles and rides well on typical UK roads
I am trying to do all the handling aspects of mine and am just trying to evaluate any part that might make a difference before making a call as to whether to go down that route.
Like any car, it's often the accumulation of a lot of 'little effects' that go towards the end result. Don't want to make it overly harsh so it still handles and rides well on typical UK roads
well said mate, as you've said just takes some of the stress away
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