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Old 24-04-2009, 07:34 AM
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Default Do Saph's still get the cossie appeal ?

I've heard so many times about how warmly Cosworths are recieved by the public , Namely the Escos and 3 door / 500 .
I was wondering is this the same for the Sapphire Cossie ? At first ( to a non enthusiast ) it's not instanttainiously recognizable, without the whale- tail spoiler.
Do you have any Stories about recognition and appreciation with your Saph? or are they viewed as a kindof , cosworth - light ?
Also do you still get the usual stuff of corsas trying to race you, just because you have a Cossie?
I'm asking because i remember seeing in Fast Ford a while back , the Sapphire being described as a ' Wolf in Sheeps clothing '
And wanted to know if it went under the radar for most ppl ????

Thanks Ollie .
Old 24-04-2009, 07:45 AM
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saph,s aint the most desireable cos but the 2wd is definatley the nicest of the lot to drive
Old 24-04-2009, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jacko
saph,s aint the most desireable cos but the 2wd is definatley the nicest of the lot to drive
i think jacko summed it up in one
Old 24-04-2009, 08:19 AM
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my saph is a basic Azura 1.6 no side skirts, vented bonnet or front bumper ect.. not cossie looking but running cossie engine and runing gear, and yes i still get the corsa small hatch effect, only thing that gives it away is the scorpion rear box.. i get asked is that a real cosworth.. i just say no.. knowing my luck id boot it off and get pulled by the only police car in the area..!

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Old 24-04-2009, 08:26 AM
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I had the same in my saph with no kit on it

got asked numerous times if it was a cossie, usually at the traffic lights!
Old 24-04-2009, 08:42 AM
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i will always look at a saff cossie,i love them. and mine did get attention even before it was tigerstriped.
not many know what they are really as they do look a bit plain compared to the others.
i would still happily own a saff again even though i own an escos

as for racing,i had all sorts trying it on with me.saxo's,nova's, evo's and porsche's mostly i was quick enough to despatch them or keep with them, lost out big style to a mclaren slr though but it was me taunting him because i wanted to hear it at full chat he did have 300 horsepower more than me though lol
Old 24-04-2009, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by natehall
I had the same in my saph with no kit on it

got asked numerous times if it was a cossie, usually at the traffic lights!
yeah your right, at the lights the other day i had someone in a diesel astra reving up next to me.. !!! so must give some appeal ? but nice to see they give that effect..
evan when driving about in my rangy ill see a basic saph and think hmm good conditon would make a good rep.. being a ford fan of the fast fords finding a saph cossie on the road driving past yu just gota look and think oh yeah thats nice and bib to the driver with thumbs up so if yu see some nutter bibin yu in a silver rangy bib back lol
Old 24-04-2009, 09:29 AM
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the sapph always gets attention,well mine does ranging from young people rite up until the older peeps.always comment on how nice it is to see one etc but the chavs favourite is 'ere mate is a proper cossie like'!!!!lol
Old 24-04-2009, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Mo
the sapph always gets attention,well mine does ranging from young people rite up until the older peeps.always comment on how nice it is to see one etc but the chavs favourite is 'ere mate is a proper cossie like'!!!!lol
get the same ere, but where i live thers not alot that drive around and sometimes it does get annoying being asked and having a 20 min chat lol

but its all part of the fun
Old 24-04-2009, 10:12 AM
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I get vvarious spunkbubbles tailgating me as soons as they've clocked the badge. Depending on what mood I'm in, what they're driving, or what road I'm on, they get ignored or smoked, so on that front, yes, they do still get recognition.

Occasionally someone will stop me on the forecourt at the petrol station and start chatting about it - "My mate used to have one", "Nice to see one one the road", "Haven't seen one of those for a long time" etc etc.

But the 'general' public probably have no awareness at all - the lot that are more interested in eeking another 0.1mpg out of their VW diesel because it'll save 1.2p a week on their fuel bill.

Basically I think it's a case of if they know what a Cosworth, or even a Sierra is (regardless of shape), then there is some recognition.
Old 24-04-2009, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cozmeister
I get various spunkbubbles tailgating me as soons as they've clocked the badge.
spot on.. im soo glad i didnt buy the cosworth badge or even the powerd by cosworth one. id like to be prowed of what i built but not to tag spunkbubbles lol
Old 24-04-2009, 05:14 PM
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Mine seems to get attention from the "right people", people of a more mature age usually pass comment while at the fuel station (which is where i spend alot of my time!) along the lines of, "you dont see many of those around now, especially in that condition"
And the other day, a spotty 17 year old in a saxo vtr said "whats that piece of crap, looks like a family car some grandad would drive", my favourite comment i think
Old 24-04-2009, 05:21 PM
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I get odd comments, the last being from a chav, is it a diesel, I said yes it's not a real cossie, he said I know, so when I came out of halfrauds I showed his mate the engine, but not him, he was so pissed.
What i think it is with sapphies and thier innocent looks is you never know what's under the bonnet power wise, has he tuned it is it real, how much bhp etc.
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Old 24-04-2009, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
What i think it is with sapphies and thier innocent looks is you never know what's under the bonnet power wise
Spot on m8 .
Old 24-04-2009, 05:35 PM
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Saffy's are great cars...without them think of all the cossie powered mk1 and mk2 escort's we would be without. Also their spare running gear helps keep the 3dr's on the road
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I'll probably get slagged off for this but fuck it.

I think personally the Saph is the best of all the cossies imo.

I prefer the looks, the way they drive and the fact they go unnoticed by a lot of people which means I stand more chance of it still being where I parked it and still in 1 piece when I get back!

That said though I still get loads of people coming up to me and talking to me about it.

And yes, I do still get the rudeboys on my back bumper when they clock the cosworth badge on the bootlid! They dont stay there for long though!
Old 24-04-2009, 07:28 PM
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The early Saph Cos is one of the best looking Fords of all time I say! Deffo my fave Cossie.

Originally Posted by WongRS
And the other day, a spotty 17 year old in a saxo vtr said "whats that piece of crap, looks like a family car some grandad would drive", my favourite comment i think
PMSL! From the driver of a mongified Peugeot 106?
Old 24-04-2009, 07:58 PM
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My sapph gets plenty of attention

There are lots of people out there who know exactly what it is. Those who don't? Well that'll be their downfall when they try it on
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I found that the chavs don't notice mine, but the older people do.
Old 24-04-2009, 08:33 PM
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in my opinion, the saff cossie are the best looking Cossie....First when the 3door came, it was the one, .....well all that changed in 88' when I saw my first Saff and I couldnt wait to get my hands on a 2wd Saff...but as it is here in Denmark cars are very expensive...and at that time a 2wd where around Ł35-38000....so I hade to wait until 95' to have one...and I still have it, and will have it to the end

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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
I'll probably get slagged off for this but fuck it.

I think personally the Saph is the best of all the cossies imo.

I prefer the looks, the way they drive and the fact they go unnoticed by a lot of people which means I stand more chance of it still being where I parked it and still in 1 piece when I get back!

That said though I still get loads of people coming up to me and talking to me about it.

And yes, I do still get the rudeboys on my back bumper when they clock the cosworth badge on the bootlid! They dont stay there for long though!
nail head,spot-on
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I have had my sapp for 8 years now,i have never had anyone put their thumb up or bip their horn,never had anyone come up to me in the petrol station and say "nice cossie"or "do not see many of these on the road anymore"
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I get that quite a lot in mine?
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nearly eveytime i go for petrol someone will say something to me about my saff
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Saffs are great cars imo, i,d have another without any doubt, always loved Magenta and Moonstone saffs..

Great car and NOT to be under-estimated........
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You should try living in New Zealand with a Cossie.

Hardly anyone knows what they are. You do occasionally see someone who does though and get some comments etc. I used to get someone saying 'cool car' about once every time I was out driving it at night in areas known for 'boy racers'.

At the moment, I tell people I have no money cos I'm rebuilding my engine, and they ask what car it is, and you can pretty much guarantee they won't know what it is. I just tell them it's got 400BHP and they like it ha ha

My FAVOURITE experience was almost passing an Aston Martin DB9 in a race but had to pull in behind because of an on-coming car. He was shitting himself ha ha

My usual competition are the jap cars, EVOS, WRX's, Nissan Skylines, Silvias, 200SX, 180SX, Holden Commodores & Ford Falcon V8's or Falcon F6 Turbo. I was at some traffic lights once on a 3 lane road and I had a Nissan Skyline GT-R on either side of me. It was wet and they smoked me (4 wheel drive).

The people that DO know what they are here usually know because their dad likes them or because of their role in the Australian Touring Car scene, which is now V8 Supercars.
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says alot about my car if everyone elses sapp gets attention
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Ha ha, I was THINKIN that but didn't wanna SAY it ha ha. But now you've said it, we can all join in ha ha

Mine is standard to look at apart from smoked lenses, 4x4 bonnet, clear front indicators, rude exhaust. SLEEPER , but then, all of a sudden...
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mines the same lol!still got the standard lattace wheels but i got them diamond cut
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What can I say mate. Must just be my James Bond good looks

Posted a profile pic but it doesn't seem to be appering next to my name.
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ya cars there mate looks very nice!
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Ta. I was experiencing minor technical difficulties but seem to have it sorted now ha ha.

The best bits to look at are under the bonnet & that's how it should be! And the VERY best bits are inside the engine
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I always get a thumbs up or a nod from the odd biker etc on the motorway and when im in traffic etc always get attention from the older generation love it , people deffinatly know what it is and its capabilities i would love an escos as thats my alltime fav but i certainly love a sapph

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Originally Posted by WongRS
Mine seems to get attention from the "right people", people of a more mature age usually pass comment while at the fuel station (which is where i spend alot of my time!) along the lines of, "you dont see many of those around now, especially in that condition"
And the other day, a spotty 17 year old in a saxo vtr said "whats that piece of crap, looks like a family car some grandad would drive", my favourite comment i think
I had "its only a sierra how fast can it go"

Originally Posted by mechanic28
says alot about my car if everyone elses sapp gets attention

I find that hard to believe Doug' your cars MINT mate
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i was after a moonstone 3dr but ended up getting a moonstone saff,2wd of course
i get quiet alot of people look and comment on it,which is nice.but to be honest its more older people that know what they are.
ive had chavs in a corsa look and laugh then race me before off a roundabout down a dual carriage way but by the next roundabout they looked very shocked

younger people just dont seem to know what a cosworth is, they only know scoobys and evo's

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i loved my dads saff cossy wish he still had it tbh but hes got his 3door an he sed they handle and driver much better than the saffs but hes always turning heads in it is quite fun to sit there an drive past a car an to have everyone break there knecks tryin to get a second look cracks me up everytime
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well they still did the business 2 years ago thats for sure!! i bought one 2 years ago had it for 4 hours and then it was nicked!! so they must still must be desirable and recognised !!
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Does it matter that your Saff dont appeal to others. I chose a rwd Saff cos to me its the best a 3dr probably looks the nuts but the Saff is so much more sorted. Dont like Escorts that much so easy choice for me.
When i used my car on a regular basis, expecially locally, i didnt get far before it was recognised & boy racers backed off cos they know it wasnt worth having a go .
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Originally Posted by MadRod
I chose a rwd Saff cos to me its the best, a 3dr probably looks the nuts but the Saff is so much more sorted.
Suppose so, having rear doors makes it easier for getting the young whipper snappers in the back and having a smaller boot lid makes it easier on the old back when opening it to get the shopping in the back
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im always getting people comment on mine, its great, as always its in the petrol station, and as ever you always get the comment "i used to own qone of these it was 5million bhp"

as for kids not knowing what they r i would dissagree, you would b suprised,

the boy racer things never bother me really, i just let them over take, it will give them something to talk about down the park,


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