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Old 05-01-2008, 01:22 PM
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when i was building my car back up i caught the passenger side central locking motor arm in the window mechanism,the cl went mental till i figured out what was wrong,now the cl doesnt work,i traced it back to the fuse but every time i change it it blows.when i pop the fuse in i get a spark from the fuse connection nearest the scuttle panel,i have disconnected the plugs for all 4 doors and the boot and it still blows the fuse.when the fuse doesnt blow it locks and unlocks constantly till you pull the fuse out,which by then is very hot!anybody come across this before?cheers,lee
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remove the plug to the motor in question and try then

the motor is cycling in and out as it can't close/open because the motors in the front doors are control motors (with 4 wires)

if the motor disconnection sorts the problem sorted, otherwise look further for a possible shor tin the door loom

remember to unplug the loom from theinside of the post, rather than inside the door to eleimate these problems
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done that already before i wrote this thread,i have disconnected every plug from inside the pillars,so only the car loom is live.is there a central locking ecu?can that be at fault?
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make shore you havent got a wire trapped in the window mechanism shorting out.
sounds like it cud be this cause its thinking to lock & unlock like its bein powerd all the time.
i had this on my old cab & it was shorting out were the wires went fron the door to the a piler.
good look with it mate
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there arent any wires live in the door,i disconnected them all in the pillars where they pass through to go into the doors so its only the loom in the car thats live now!
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Might sound obvious,but you'v deffo unplugged the central locking?????Not electric windows

Strange problem,usaully as said above the loom breaking down going into the doors from the pillars

Have you got remote central locking off your alarm fob?????

Could be prob with this

Had trouble with mine,locking and unlocking when ever you plugged drivers door motor in,was a earth wire broken in loom.
Converted my 2wd saph to 4x4 central locking,alot better system
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Originally Posted by CosKev3
Converted my 2wd saph to 4x4 central locking,alot better system
Didn't even know they were different, bloody Fords

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sussed it,had the wires in the boot mixed up causing the fuse to blow,and the rod that works the passenger door mechanism was bent reducing the throw of the cl motor.its all good now except i need a cl motor for the boot!what a dummy!
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Bet you feel a bit Nice that it's fixed ish.
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yeah,getting there,1 of my rs7 diamond cut wheels arrived today so im getting a bit excited now!just need to get the alarm fitted,headling and interior in,fix the abs then at the end of the month coilovers or ahmed springs and some big brake brackets!woohoo,still not got my camera sorted so no pics of it as it is now.are the boot central locking motors guilty of not working?
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the boot motors have the bullet connectors on them just in case you were thinking you could use the other motors

and the later motors come complete with cable assembly and you also need to reverse the polarity of the locks triger wires as they lock/unlock theopposite way around

you might also find that parts of the door obstruct the mechanism, but nothing that a drift and a hammer won't solve
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fixed it last night,the plunger you push in to open the boot was very sticky,the spring couldnt push it back out far enough for the lock lever to operate and lock the boot,got it sorted with some patience and some wd-40,didnt need the hammer unfortunately!
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