pyle

Is the extra weight of the 5 door really noticeable, its around 25-30kgs, in performance terms?

Gazzonator

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I've driven 3 door ones and owned a 5 door and there's absolutely nothing in it IMO handling or performance wise.

Glenn_

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I owned a 3dr st17O and it was a cracking car. They handle well and go ok.

pyle

The price difference between the two cars I like is around 2k that's why I asked if it was a big difference between them.

pyle

In bulgarian money the 5d one is 3300 the 3d one is 5200.. Thats huge for roughly the same car. Regarding torsional rigidity, I don't think the 3 door chassis is stiffer as it doen't have pillars..

gingeRS

ok that makes more sense, in simple physics terms the 5 door should be stiffer as it has 2 pressings in the side of the bodyshell

i think if you drove 2 it would come down to the car thats in better mechanical condition though....i would lose any sleep over it.

if the same spec car was 40% cheaper in 5 door, i would buy a 5 door and pocket the difference.

gcfcos

I'd say if it's for family duties then a 5 door, if not then it's gotta be a 3 door

massivewangers

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It would be interesting to know the weight difference. I can't imagine it's a lot.

fiend

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Where did you find that info? Got a link to it?

mattxr3i

Looking out of my window and my neighbour has a mk1 Focus saloon. Back in the day, I remember the Orion 1.6i Ghia being thought of as a better handler than the XR3i due to the fixed rear window and the joining of the rear suspension turrets under the rear seat. I bet the Focus 4 door is even more stiff than the hatchbacks.

My 2p worth is, the 30kgs is the least of the ST170s problems, the fact it makes 155bhp on a good day and the long gearing need to be solved first. Also that heavy DMF, get that removed too

mattxr3i

I have to add, I do really like the ST170 but Ford could have made a really excellent car, all the ingredients were there but they held it back with the transmission. Wasnt it pegged back due to the RS?

It's Czech Mate

Didn't the Onion have a rear arb whereas the hatch didn't?

mattxr3i

I think you are right, lifted from the RS Turbo

RichieST

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I'm sure this thread has had loads of posts deleted....

It's Czech Mate

Yup, 31kgs of difference, if anyone thinks that makes a difference on a shagged 14year old snotter they're on crack, it's barely a tank of fuel

As for posts deleted, I guess a mod must have been made to look stupid.....