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Old 08-12-2005, 05:14 PM
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hi ive just bought an f plate turbo.....bloke claims it was the old performance ford one ben brichs?

any way its a non started anyone got any suggestions on where i should start looking it trys to turn over but no dose not fire????


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Old 10-12-2005, 12:49 PM
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Could be a number of thing's id try the dizzy first as there a common problem with an rs
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i know a fiar bit about nearly every other aspect of the rs turbo but nothing about the engine and common prob's ive got it fairly cheap and dont rely wanna break it, its nice a clean everywhere,

any where i could take it to find out what the prob is, the blokes not letting on or dosn't no,

im in thurrock in essex
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Remove the plastic breather pipe that goes from the breather filter (back left) behind the inlet manifold and down to the metering head. If this gets any leaks it can upset things.

Remove the air filter box and while a mate is cranking it over depress the metering head flap lightly and see if it fires into life.

Does it have spark?

Is it getting fuel?
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as posted above i had the same prob ended up being the dizzy
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i think it may be the fule pump do they have acut off switch on the 88 cars
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Originally Posted by marky_g
i think it may be the fule pump do they have acut off switch on the 88 cars
No cutoff switch on mfi
Did you try the dizzy??

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Old 16-12-2005, 04:25 PM
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now its catching but only sounds like its on 2

plus i still cant hear a fule pump and u have to use throttel to keep it running????
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when you turn on the ignition you should hear the feul pump prime (its quite loud) try turnin it over, then remove the plugs and see if there wet. make sure the leads are on in right order. then check if theres a spark.

failing that, it could be the metering head, coil, dizzy.

have you tried push startin the car and forcin the engine to turn?

you could have a fooked cam,
?

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Old 17-12-2005, 03:45 PM
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not tryed bump startin

i cant hear the pump at all where should i strat to look for a problem with that the relays or the pump its self?

im gettin another dizzy and set of leads for it plus a group a coil monday its

what problem is it likly to be with the metering head????
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kinda sounds like my problem. mine went to fire and then just turned over...leave 5 mins it would do the same, fuel pump not kicking in.


1. new fuel relay got the pump going, and changed the earth screw in the drivers speaker well.

2. after 3 weeks of the garage trying to get the car going, we jumped it, it jumped started 1st time..i gave it a 40mph 6mile drive, not boosting the car.
now she starts 1st time on the key...so must have needed the engine going to push compressed air out and bleed the fuel lines i suppose.



give it a go mate...nothing to lose!!
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ignition timing????
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I had a bit of a starting problem which was down to a number of things - dodgy fuel pump, was running far too rich and the timing was out. also the fuel pump relay was getting a bit dodgy. might recommend changing the relay first as its the cheapest option at about Ł25.

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yer i jumped it and it only ran on 2 thought i'd cracked it now i think ive fooked the main earth now u turn the key and all the ignition lights go off


any one no if its ben brichs old one as claimed its F528 NLD
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black rims, erl water injection. pace double capacity inter cooler. drilled air box.

just check the reg and it is the old pf car.
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Compression+spark+fuel=running engine. All the other things mentioned
above will just mean it'll run badly.
Easiest way to isolate problem (assuming there's compression and the previous owner hasn't done something daft like fitting cam belt incorrectly)
is to remove the hose leading to the throttle butterfly + get a mate to spray some 'easystart' into the inlet whilst you turn it over.
Easy start is like an enviromental disaster in a can and will start ANY
engine. If it runs then dies when you stop spraying it's a fuel problem
(You have checked there's fuel in it not just relied on your fuel gauge)
if it doesn't fire it's igniton.
Hope this helps good luck.

P.S.
If it is Ben's, the guy to speak to is Jamie at Jamsport cos he's recently fiited a whole new management system to it, which if it is an ignition problem
might make sense.
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black rims, erl water injection. pace double capacity inter cooler. drilled air box.

its got that but is a single intercooler and standard air box not drilled.

i cant find that reg of the PF car for shit thanks any way tho every one is beein very help ful but due to funds i'm not touchin it to the new year now thanks to everyone tho
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right can i use the fule pump relay from an XR3i as i have a full Xr3i Fuse Box in my shead????? what one is it, its the large pink 1????

bear with me its my first proper (unbodged) rst

this will only mearly be to bridge it out unitll i can get a new pump relay to dertimin if mine is fulty
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