aubrey

Heu Guys.
Got myself a series one RS Turbo. Its already fitted with a Bailey dump valve. Which I think is cool, but the lads in work think their sad.
What do you think???

cheeRS
Aubrey

Combi_Chris

i personally dont like them , having said that , some of the super cars , like for example the type you see on need for speed, do sound great , but i think they are not using a bailey one , i have the cossie management so i get a kinda chatter sound , even that bothers me .

my opinion???


take it off

Oranoco

If you have loads of boost (30psi) then it's required. But just having one for the noise is gayer than Christmas

An Escort RST will also have problems as they really don't like to run with a DV

adamS2RST

Seriously un - cool

AKRS1

Sound nice but the car dont run right with it on

GrimmeRS2K

was cool a few years ago, but now getting gay

Big-J

i quite like it. have been thinking about taking mine off recently though. still undecided...

RonRon

i have an Forge DV on mine... i always liked the sound of a DV.. but i feel ya anyway.. overhere everybody is getting DV's on their cars.. But i like the attention when i come thru hahaha....

whats that with the engine not running right with a DV?? is there a technical explanation to it??

besides that... i heard a lotta people talkin about the turbo is damaged faster when ur not fitting a DV??

AKRS1

its not worth running on a car unless your running over 25psi boost and when i find rsts jerk when your comin on and off throttle and can be annoying

turbodaily

at the end of the day mate if you like it then have it

but if i was to have one id get one that doesnt go off until your on full boost coz theres nothing worse than one going off every time you let off. gets on my tits

i see someone around my area put 2 dumpvalves on his escort what the hells that for???

Rallyesport

On a RST, I would worry more about the sensor plate taking damage than the turbo.

Mr RS

better having the chatter, dump valves are old hat bring on the rally chatter

aubrey

by chatter, do you mean like a drreeewww sound , if so I much prefer that, how do you get that sound?

RonRon

from what im told you can only get that chatter sound if your boost is very high... does'nt say nothing if you're running standard boost... !?

Combi_Chris

i ''think'' chatter is only on cars running efi, or cossie management , i have the chatter , and am running cossie management , but i dont like the noise either

Little Joe

I have Chatter and mine is runin Stage 1.

dry

Mine was on when i got her 11 months ago. Liked it at first but starting to get get a bit annoying now. Older people who don't know what they are turn round in the street and look at you when you come up behind them. They look at you like you are driving like maniac cos they can hear the noise, when in actual fact you are just driving like everyone else but just can't help the thing goin off ! Heard stories bout cars runnin crap when you take em off so leaving it on. Like it sometimes though when the right audience is lookin at the car ! ! !

Rallyesport

Mine is shimed up, it was so anoying when it went off everywhere. The needle didn't need to pass 0 PSI.

RonRon

As i said before... i always liked the sound of a DV... and i like the attention to it... everybody turning heads when you come thru with that sound.. and the airfilter is spitting and wheezing

but over here... a lot of people has begun to fit FAKE DV's on their cars without turbos.... thats some gay shit right there...

anyway... i think we have different opinions in Denmark and England.. seems like we do more for the attention than you do..

cossiemanden

I like chatter better then the DV sound, but many people ar using them to get popular.... which they dont...
You should only put DV on if it is nessecery, on rs-t i would guess about 14psi an over...
Cosies have them standard, so they are escused
I have tryed 6 different on my car, but i use them to get performance AND protection to my engine/turbo....NOT sound

Oranoco

An Escort RST will get very minimal chatter unless it's been converted to EFi. The KE-Jetronic system does not like DV's as they introduce and air leak to the system that causes stalling, hesitation and other problems. You will do the turbo on these cars no damage at all by not having one and anybody telling you otherwise is a fool.

I have tried various different DV's and by far the best was to not bother so I don't have one at all and my Bailey twin piston valve is living in a box in the garage. The Escort runs at 25psi all day long and gets driven hard with no probs whatsoever.

The FRST has chatter and there is no way a DV will be going near it

Rallyesport

I have tried with and with out a two piston dump valve, fully working and there was no difference in respons or anything else. You must have used a broken dump valve or a not suited one.

Oranoco

I have used three DV's on the car. A screw together diaphragm type a Bailey single piston and a Bailey twin piston. The twin piston was by far the best of the bunch but still had side effects so it was binned. I've owned my s2 for nearly a decade now and a lot of parts have come and gone as it's evolved.

Nothing to do with broken or unsuited valves, it's totally down to the way KE-Jetronic functions and it's inherrent inability to deal with air leaks in the system (which a DV creates).

turbocat

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Ive had 3 s2 and 2 s1 in the past get rid of the dump valve and have a big induction kit. They sound fantastic

Combi_Chris

i cant belive there at that many voters that think a dv is cool, but then i was driving an rs in 98 when dv`s 1st came on to the rs turbo scene

Oranoco

I remember when it was the "Must Have" mod if you had a turbo car

Rallyesport

The difference must be in your head. I felt nothing when I compared with and without a twin piston dv on the same testing session. There is no airleak when the throttle is open. The pressure that builds up when closing the throttle will slam the sensor plate shut when running high boost. And we all know this metering head is sensetive and is the mother of most of RS Turbo running problems.

Combi_Chris

oranoco, i know what your saying, lol

along with a bleed valve ....hehe

no offence people, history repeats itself , ive just seen it happen

Oranoco

Nothing in my head at all mate. The problem is'nt when the throttle is open but when it's closed and the DV is open (air leak) the excess boost in the system exits via the DV which causes the pressure plate to close and it is this that causes the car to stall at lights and run rough. If you really want to beleive they are great and there is no problem then go ahead from a lot of experience with them I know different.

Combi_Chris

i have had that exact problem too oranoco , this is why i choose not to use a dv , owning such a nice car is enough for me , and already gets plenty of attention, and usually the wrong kind!!

Versus_Creations

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Manchester Mike

Rallyesport

Stall at lights and run rough? Sorry, never experienced that the two years I have had the car. A quality twin piston dv in good condition do not cause any running problems.

rs_daz

I have one on my car its not loud at all but cant take it off as the car runs shit

Sean_RS

I love the sound of chatter... if i didnt have efi i would consider a dv.. only prob is that it is a bit of a scally thing... although when i see them on nice s2 i think they can sound mint. So if your not a scall its okay.

Oranoco

You must be one of a lucky minority then

AKRS1

I think dump valves sound nice but the reason i havent got one is bcos i do loads of driving on motorways and A roads and what i experienced with the dump valve is that when you come on and off throttle the car seems to be jerky which annoys me but otherwise when driving around town it seem to be okay no stalling just normal but with the sound also you gotta make sure you have the twin piston one.

Mr.h.

I ran a dumpvalve up until a months ago or so and there IS a difference in the way the car respondes! Its so much smoother on gear change ,no jerking ect
My s2 is running 12psi (159bhp) and i could hear chatter(Still running Mfi) over the DV so i took it off and it sounds so much better!
Before anyone says " Ya metering head is fooked!" ive had it checked out and its in perfect condition!!!

My advice to everyone is take off the gay dump valve unless its really needed or your that desperate for attention that you need it

Nick

kiddie

I have one, the car boosts 25psi-I don't have it to get attention, the car runs perfect
Its down to choice at the end of the day, and it drills me when people call them gay-RS owners that run stock/low psi are fuckin gay

Rab

Dump valves do nowt, and sound stupid.