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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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Currently got a resto going on my s2 rst, the sunroof tray is fu*ked and the roof itself doesn't look amazing, various dimples etc so now thinking along the lines of carbon roof...

What is involved in fitting the full replacement roof against the roof skin??

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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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grinder then bond the roof on
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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is that the full replacement ??... sorry to sound dumb but if the roofs off what do u bond to!
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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the inner roof frame, or you dont even need to cut the roof off if you dont want to it will happily bond to the old roof
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Jamie, have a look in my resto thread in my signature. Theres pics of when we did mine. It's not a bad job to do at all. Contact Phil at carbon delight for the roof. You won't regret it and he will also give you all the fitting advice you need.
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Jamie, have a look in my resto thread in my signature. Theres pics of when we did mine. It's not a bad job to do at all. Contact Phil at carbon delight for the roof. You won't regret it and he will also give you all the fitting advice you need.
cheers dan i pinged them an e mail earlier, they do sound so tempting especially the weight loss
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Jamie, have a look in my resto thread in my signature. Theres pics of when we did mine. It's not a bad job to do at all. Contact Phil at carbon delight for the roof. You won't regret it and he will also give you all the fitting advice you need.
good effort lad, that car has had some serious work hats off to ya!
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awesome build mate looks the nuts!! is that the skin or full replacement ??.. thats what i got confused with on the website
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Full replacement needs a cage I thought ? To put the strength back in
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Cheers guys. It's going to continue as work in progress as and when I get 'into' it. I've no plans of getting rid, just evolving!

My roof is the replacement version which has a foam type core for strength unlike the skin which is meant only as a cover and so does feel a bit flimsy but totally perfect if you want to just cover your existing roof. My roof, like most, had some rot so we cut it off as per the pics in my thread and carbon delights instructions. My car already had a half cage which I'm happy with. The strength of the a,b,c pillars is all still there I have just cut the 'fat' out (crust lol) and replaced it with a stronger material, carbon.

It's a great mod which once you've bought the roof, iirc about Ł550 lacquered including the a pillar covers, there's no other costs involved. For me it was fit and forget, no more rust bubbles behind the sunroof! It depends what you want your car to be but for my use it transformed the look plus made a significant weight saving.

Phil's attention to detail on these is brilliant and I think it's good value for the work that goes into making them.
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dan thanks for your advice mate, i want rid of the sunroof completeley, i absolutely love the carbon look but id probably have it painted.
Are you at ford fair next month ? would be good to have a good look over it n a chat

i always thought a cage was needed but looking at your thread the strength is still there
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I want one but will paint it . Any pictures of the inside as I would like to keep the trim
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Originally Posted by Ryoishikawa
I want one but will paint it . Any pictures of the inside as I would like to keep the trim
you would need a non sunroof headlining ,all the points where the headlining bars are held are not touched
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Originally Posted by Ryoishikawa
I want one but will paint it . Any pictures of the inside as I would like to keep the trim
that what id wanna do
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Seriously contemplating in a full roof like Dan's on my S2 Cossie project, but would like a bonnet and boot, does anyone do a boot???



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P.S. I like the way this Mk1 Fiesta roof has been done, http://www.xrtwo.com/forum/viewtopic...8708&start=100 Page 5 onwards

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Seriously contemplating a full roof like Dan's on my S2 Cossie project, but would like a bonnet and boot, does anyone do a boot???



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phil will be doing a boot ,he is doing me a 1700t one at the mo ,he will offer this in carbon but i dont think it will be cheap
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phil will be doing a boot ,he is doing me a 1700t one at the mo ,he will offer this in carbon but i dont think it will be cheap
and im still waiting for my bits , only 6months now
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Originally Posted by Jamie_EscortSport
dan thanks for your advice mate, i want rid of the sunroof completeley, i absolutely love the carbon look but id probably have it painted.
Are you at ford fair next month ? would be good to have a good look over it n a chat

i always thought a cage was needed but looking at your thread the strength is still there
cage will be needed if you go for the full replacement
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What about if you just cut the sunroof selection out like danster76 did
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almost forgot that i'm waiting for some door handles and those S1 arch protectors
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I did cut the whole roof off. I have the replacement fitted, not the skin. Half cage and absolutely no issues or doubt in its strength.

Dave, any idea when you'll have the tailgate I'd like to have a look. Which car is this going on? I'd probably go for one if he goes ahead.
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Here she is...

















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i will eventually have a cage fitted just done really want one welded in etc! dont want it too crazy

to be honest where strengths concerned isnt carbon stronger???
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looks really nice anyone got a number fot carbon delights as this is what im going to do to mine in the winter.also a price just for the roof no prep etc cheers dave
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Ahh I want one now!
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Ahh I want one now!
tell me about it, i keep looking at them and its making me really want one
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Another 500 notes I need to find lol
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This is their new website http://www.carbondelight.co.uk/home.php
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...nice one will check it out, I think this is happening
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i`ll be ordering one as soon as i got a few bits sorted in my s1 and its driving.

removing the tray and trimming a couple inches around sunroof hole then bonding the carbon skin on too the old roof skin. cage not going in for a while.

whats the wait like for one??
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Gonna cut the same selection that danster76 but with out the cage. Would that be ok
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You need a cage if you cut the roof
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and im still waiting for my bits , only 6months now
your bonnet has just been lacquared looks the nuts ,saw it up there this week
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6 months!! fuuuucck!! better bodge up my sunroof then.
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Originally Posted by series_one_rst
6 months!! fuuuucck!! better bodge up my sunroof then.
is that the lead time for the roof????
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Think mine took a bit longer but I was in no rush
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Does he do door handles ? And I heard someone doing a scuttle panel to would that be bond on one
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Fitting a carbon roof will take strength out the shell if you cut the roof out !! best thing to do if you want to go down the route fit a cage even just a 6 point as long as its tagged to the a/b/c pillars and has one cross bar in the roof at least unless you think ur life is worthless
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Originally Posted by martinmilne
Does he do door handles ? And I heard someone doing a scuttle panel to would that be bond on one
Carbondelight does a scuttle panel, have one on mine
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
Carbondelight does a scuttle panel, have one on mine
Was it bond on ?
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