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Old 09-04-2012, 12:12 AM
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Default Puma shifter on RS Turbo?

Anyone done this conversion?

I believe that they can be fitted as they are but this moves the shifter backwards, meaning new holes have to be drilled to mount it to the floor. Does that mean that the gasket wont work so will piss water into the car?

Failing that, do they need chopping down to fit? If so, can anyone supply me with any info?

My standard RS shiter is awful
Old 09-04-2012, 12:18 AM
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fitted one on our track car ,with rs turbo box ,yes you need to drill holes ,but then we just made good the gasket after ,bloody good cheap mod
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Originally Posted by Twins
fitted one on our track car ,with rs turbo box ,yes you need to drill holes ,but then we just made good the gasket after ,bloody good cheap mod
Any pics/advice? How would I "make good" the gasket?
Old 09-04-2012, 02:31 PM
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why not fit a quickshift
Old 09-04-2012, 10:11 PM
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I fitted one to my estate, bolts straight onto the box and it's 10mm shorter so hole need drilling. The whole centre console still fits straight back in. Will upload a couple of pics tommorow if you want?
Old 09-04-2012, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NATH-RSZT
I fitted one to my estate, bolts straight onto the box and it's 10mm shorter so hole need drilling. The whole centre console still fits straight back in. Will upload a couple of pics tommorow if you want?
Managed to do it on my phone

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The 2 10mm bolts you can see are the back brace off the new selector.

Is a brilliant cheap mod, gear selection is as good as quick shift
Old 10-04-2012, 05:57 AM
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Will this work on a frst

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Cheers Nath.

So it's just a case of bolting it all to the gearbox, then drilling from underneath?
Old 10-04-2012, 08:00 AM
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Looks good.

Any more advice or tips was thinking of buying a b and m but if this is just as good i wont bother
Old 10-04-2012, 11:59 AM
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Does the stabiliser and everything fit...?
I tried this last year on a friends car and nothing seemed to line up, and the gear lever wouldnt self centre back to neutral.
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Originally Posted by Rogeyboy
Does the stabiliser and everything fit...?
I tried this last year on a friends car and nothing seemed to line up, and the gear lever wouldnt self centre back to neutral.
you need the ib5 bix if you want it to self centre. yes it all fits apart from drilling extra holes
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Can the lever be made to self centre by butering it with the RS lever mech at the gearstick end?
Old 10-04-2012, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilCook
Cheers Nath.

So it's just a case of bolting it all to the gearbox, then drilling from underneath?
Ye I have the old style box found in all mk4's b5? I Think .not ib5 as that's the later version but should still fit.

Yes it litterally bolted straight to the box (both bars straight on) then lifted it up and marked the holes. Took me 20 mins tops.

I see no reason why it shouldn't fit a frst, may even be a direct swap as fez one is shorter that an escort.

I cannot stress how good and easy this mod is, if you've ever drove a puma you would know.

Heres a pic of my centre console all back together

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Does it feel OK given that it doesnt self centre though?

I remember Jano saying he could make them self centre if you sent him a puma and escort linkages.
Old 10-04-2012, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilCook
Does it feel OK given that it doesnt self centre though?

I remember Jano saying he could make them self centre if you sent him a puma and escort linkages.
If you knock it out of gear it falls back to center, if In neutral and you pull it to one side it falls back to the middle. Is that self centering enough for ya lol

I havnt done any mods to it at all for it to do this.
Old 10-04-2012, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NATH-RSZT
If you knock it out of gear it falls back to center, if In neutral and you pull it to one side it falls back to the middle. Is that self centering enough for ya lol

I havnt done any mods to it at all for it to do this.
Then thats fine and dandy for me.

Willbe off to the breakers this week to pick one up
Old 11-04-2012, 11:53 AM
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Phil let me know how you get on please?
Old 11-04-2012, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogeyboy
Phil let me know how you get on please?
Will do fella
Old 11-04-2012, 03:55 PM
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Anyone running decent power should really be using an IB5 box anyway, there's so many about, so cheap and drop straight in!
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They a lot better than the standard RSTurbo number?

Assuming they dont come with a diff though
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Yes, the casing has more webbing meaning less flex under high torque, the bearings are bigger (like a CTS box), but no they dont come with a diff... The S2 LSD drops in though so not a problem.
Effectively an IB5 box is a CTS box without shot peened gears and a quaife diff.... for about £25!!!!
I ran my last IB5 for over a year (about 10k miles) with around 270bhp and it didnt break, prior to this I have broken three BC boxes with much less power... snapped main shafts, stripped teeth, etc.

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Cool. So if my RS box blows up I will chuck a puma number in it. WIN
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starter motor is in the wrong place on a puma, ka fits
Old 12-04-2012, 07:20 AM
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I'd like to go for an IB5 box, but i just don't know what ratios etc etc to go for. I want standard-ish s2 ratios
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is it any specific year of puma you have to go for or fit or any year puma gear selectors and lever ?
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can anyone answer that question ? any particular year of Puma, or does it not matter ?

Cheers
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Brining this up again - I have a puma shifter but don’t seem to have the colllar that fits to the body. Ideas on how to fix the shifter the body? Cheers
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Collar? You need to drill two holes at the back of the linkage (shifter end) but not quite sure what the collar is you are referring to?
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So I need to drill through the linkage housing on the puma one?

when I mean collar I’m talking about the idonized colour frame in post 6 above with the bolts come up.
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I have one of these lying in the garage for years, never actually fitted is because the non centering put me off and iirc the bars cross over underneath???
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