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Old 18-03-2011, 09:36 PM
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When I owned a sierra turbo, I was taking a friend out for a quick spin. Came slowly down a side road when a lambo drives past. We looked at eachother, but didnt have to say anything. We took up the pursuit.

After about a mile we were right up the lambo's rear, waiting for the next straight.

He took the corner a little faster than me, but waited a sec before he floored it when I was right back with him.

He took off a few feet before I got up to boost and closed the distance between the two cars.

Through the gears I only heard the V12 roar together with my turbo whine. Had to change gears on gut feeling as I didnt dear to take my eyes of the road.
After about 500m we both backed off, and rolled down to a stop whilst he just kept driving.

We laughed hard on the way back, as neither of us could understand what just happened.

Can still imagine the race when I close my eyes, what a car.
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rob...i raced the rs4 on a rolling start from 40mph mate we raced to 140 and i left it! a gt3 i didnt say my car was quicker than one if u look at my post i was talking to the cossie guy about his one fela.... i raced another ones which i had my mate film for me its in my fone but i wont be uploading it as ill be in trouble!!
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Default took a tt from two sets of lights

the guy obviously didnt know how to drive cause the ka aint quick but through first and second i had him till the next lights and then again untill third gear
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Fuck off, some of this is just total shit,



Would you beat an RS4..... nope
Would your car be faster than a GT3 RS.... nope

Crazy cage has one of the fastest timed 0-60's in an rst at a touch over 5 secs, the RS4 does it in 4.5 sec and the quarter in 12.8 secs.....

the GT3 RS does 0-60 in 4.3 secs and the 1/4 mile in 12 dead.... never seen a road going RST do a quater in that time, i've only seen a hand full of cosworths do the 1/4 in under 12 secs.

Im not saying it can't be done, but theres a handful of RS turbos on this forum that could do it.

They are both standard reliable cars, go up against a modified B5 RS4 and see if your still bhp wanking at the pub.
my car IS faster than a rs4 on a 40mph rolling start i raced it all the way to stupid speeds and i left it so say what u want i no what happened!!! raced another that i filmed and left that aswell that i overtook after he had a headstart all on film! i didnt say MY car was faster than a gt3 either i havent raced one !!
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Originally Posted by essexRSTSouthend
Hey rob, guessing he means rolling start against one... As i know for a fact if i tried from stand still,the rs4 be long gone.
thanks mate i agree with that
Old 19-03-2011, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MO RS TURBO
my car IS faster than a rs4 on a 40mph rolling start i raced it all the way to stupid speeds and i left it so say what u want i no what happened!!! raced another that i filmed and left that aswell that i overtook after he had a headstart all on film! i didnt say MY car was faster than a gt3 either i havent raced one !!
Was this an rs4 driven by a racing driver that was fully lit? Or some bloke on his way to work that was just having a laugh? No one can judge whether their car is faster than another by a 'race' with an unknown person on the roads. You just don't know if they're even trying!
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You need to do be looking at terminals, not et's.

My Audi runs around 395bhp at the wheels. I've timed it at 4.2 to 60 with a shit gear change - it has got a sub 4 in it. But, once rolling Gary's Fiesta totally dicks it. Only Luca's RST can match that currently though.

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Ill look out for your Audi then im sure i could keep with you haha i wish
Old 19-03-2011, 10:29 PM
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You soon know if someone is having it,engine sound increases with quick gear changes. Or that not correct lol
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Originally Posted by Rick
You need to do be looking at terminals, not et's.

My Audi runs around 395bhp at the wheels. I've timed it at 4.2 to 60 with a shit gear change - it has got a sub 4 in it. But, once rolling Gary's Fiesta totally dicks it. Only Luca's RST can match that currently though.

Rick
Gary's is a bit special though, im not sure how many escort/fiestas on this forum could match it.

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Originally Posted by MO RS TURBO
my car IS faster than a rs4 on a 40mph rolling start i raced it all the way to stupid speeds and i left it so say what u want i no what happened!!! raced another that i filmed and left that aswell that i overtook after he had a headstart all on film! i didnt say MY car was faster than a gt3 either i havent raced one !!
With all respect mate, i don't know you, i don't know your car, you could be 13 years old and masturbating on the other side of your screen.... i don't know.


Some one once said to me "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear", its always made a lot of sense to me that.

It's just in my experience, people who come on here ranting about their 300 bhp rst usually have 200 bhp and do 1/4 mile times slower than a standard rst.

Sounds like a fantastic car you have mate, why not bring it to the POD for central day?

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he was definately racing me!! heres how it was with the race i have on film. was stiiting in traffic on a dual cariiage way and the passenger screams "rs4 rs4 wait!" so i look in the mirror and see it a car behind in the next lane.. the traffic [4 cars move off] moves on and he comes next to me staring at my car and gives me the thumbs up we both stay level and he just takes off! i didnt floor it becuase i already raced one and no my car is quicker than a standard rs4 but the guy [passenger] kept saying show him some power so i just plant the throttle and give him chase .. cought him up right by a camara both of us level up and we both drop gear and go for it i pulled away from him and tell my mate to film it ... soon i was doing 12o ish and he was way behind .. then he comes next to me and i put my hand out giving him a head start his car ROARED past me then i plant the throttle and in 3rd i pull away and then started pulling away hardddd... leaving him my car has alot of power from late 2nd gear onwards . like i said all this is filmed but i dont want to upload it
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Sounds good mate, i wouldn't up load it if i were you.

Come to the POD, you should be seeing 130 terminals and mid 13's with your car

Rob,
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
With all respect mate, i don't know you, i don't know your car, you could be 13 years old and masturbating on the other side of your screen.... i don't know.


Some one once said to me "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear", its always made a lot of sense to me that.

It's just in my experience, people who come on here ranting about their 300 bhp rst usually have 200 bhp and do 1/4 mile times slower than a standard rst.

Sounds like a fantastic car you have mate, why not bring it to the POD for central day?

Rob,
i understand where you are coming from if somebody told me they left a rs4 in a rst i would think they wer taking the piss! so i dont blame you for thinking what you are... but i raced them and i know my car is definately quicker than a rs4 from 40mph [thats where i raced it from] im no kid and i would do quarter mile times. i got a 13.8 and ever since then my car changed alot and i just dont like launching it there im always scared my gearbox might shit itself! ib5 quaiffe but i still hear they blow!
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and heres my engine bay mate
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Originally Posted by MO RS TURBO
my car has alot of power from late 2nd gear onwards .
Surely it has the same power in every gear? As it's revs that determine it, not gear? Unless it's got a torque limiter?
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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
Surely it has the same power in every gear? As it's revs that determine it, not gear? Unless it's got a torque limiter?
basically the turbo is too big for it and its still quick but 1st gear aint as good as all the other gears are.. my t3 was good in lower gears but faded where as this new turbo is mad from 2nd onwards [mainly use it for a38 top speed
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Nice bay buddy, didn't realise it was a ZT that would explain the totally believable 300+bhp. Don't get me wrong, im not being negative for the sake of it... but i'd be a bell sniff if i just went round and blindly believed every thing on the net.
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dont worry mate heres the spec so you know
boost controller
t4 sized similar turbo
750cc injectors
044 cossie fuel pump
foucus rs headgasket
omex and launch control
quaiffe ib5 box
rover inlet
individual coilpacks off a audi
has more but cant think of it lol
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
With all respect mate, i don't know you, i don't know your car, you could be 13 years old and masturbating on the other side of your screen.... i don't know.

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LOL !!
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Originally Posted by MO RS TURBO
dont worry mate heres the spec so you know
boost controller
t4 sized similar turbo
750cc injectors
044 cossie fuel pump
foucus rs headgasket
omex and launch control
quaiffe ib5 box
rover inlet
individual coilpacks off a audi
has more but cant think of it lol
Surely not on standard internals?
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skimmed pistons and standard rods... now before u say anything yes its been perfectly reliable for all these years!!! mates are running the same thing and theres have also been perfect all over 300bhp... SEVS has same spec running a genuine 328bhp and does track days etc aswell and still running fine!!
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Wasn't going to question it, kinda wanted to hear that as I want to build one in the near future
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ok
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Sounds good mate, i wouldn't up load it if i were you.

Come to the POD, you should be seeing 130 terminals and mid 13's with your car

Rob,
Audi RS4
0-60: 4.3 seconds. 1/4 Mile: 12.8 @ 106.8 mph terminal

just the 1/4 time is not a direct comparison, i know a corsa with a redtop engine that can do a 12.1 sec 1/4 but @ only 95 terminal

getting a good time is about traction and the terminal mph = power to weight acceleration when already rolling


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Mo RS Turbo - Your bay look good m8, the coil on plug is something you dont see much of. I bet it moves pretty well.

An RS4 is 400ish bhp and weighs alot more than an erst, which at 300 ish bhp probably evens out the power to weight ratio - so ive no doubt you can play with RS4s and M3s etc etc.. Nice work! But you can understand why people question such claims, when there is soo many ERSTs out there like Rob DOHC says with "200bhp" and are no quicker than standard and also an RS4 is classed a pretty quick car i think its fair to say!

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Being a blacktop that is doing at least 300hp.
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Best race for me prob was in the 2wd coss, 340bhp with 400l/bs racing a r1 at 150mph, was stuffed me tho, he had is knee down at that, couldent overtake him lol. (private race track)

My st220 running 345bhp kept up okay with a 410bhp evo.
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Originally Posted by CF20
Audi RS4
0-60: 4.3 seconds. 1/4 Mile: 12.8 @ 106.8 mph terminal

just the 1/4 time is not a direct comparison, i know a corsa with a redtop engine that can do a 12.1 sec 1/4 but @ only 95 terminal

getting a good time is about traction and the terminal mph = power to weight acceleration when already rolling


Mate 9/10 the car with a 1/4 mile time lower than a second will be the faster car from a rolling start. Traction doesn't = time, power to weight doesn't = terminal. Both factors influence each other.

If you want to be anal about it look up some standing mile times and compare them with 1/4's. As long as the gearing/aero dynamics/weight aren't silly.
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Mo rs,that a sweet engine bay.
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Originally Posted by m_nettleship
Best race for me prob was in the 2wd coss, 340bhp with 400l/bs racing a r1 at 150mph, was stuffed me tho, he had is knee down at that, couldent overtake him lol. (private race track)

My st220 running 345bhp kept up okay with a 410bhp evo.
Any pics of your 220 mate? sounds like a tool Turbo i take it?

Rob,
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Originally Posted by Rogeyboy
Mo RS Turbo - Your bay look good m8, the coil on plug is something you dont see much of. I bet it moves pretty well.

An RS4 is 400ish bhp and weighs alot more than an erst, which at 300 ish bhp probably evens out the power to weight ratio - so ive no doubt you can play with RS4s and M3s etc etc.. Nice work! But you can understand why people question such claims, when there is soo many ERSTs out there like Rob DOHC says with "200bhp" and are no quicker than standard and also an RS4 is classed a pretty quick car i think its fair to say!
cheers and i agree to that
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still i'd prefer an audi any day as u dont get hemmeroids when driving them for longer than a 1/4 mile

but nice engine bay, i agree
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lol, good point.... but i guess you don't have cardiac arrest when you take an rst in for service
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
lol, good point.... but i guess you don't have cardiac arrest when you take an rst in for service
Them comments just made my day haha.funny stuff.
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Originally Posted by Rick
You need to do be looking at terminals, not et's.

My Audi runs around 395bhp at the wheels. I've timed it at 4.2 to 60 with a shit gear change - it has got a sub 4 in it. But, once rolling Gary's Fiesta totally dicks it. Only Luca's RST can match that currently though.

Rick

rick explain what i mean mate your intelligent ?

was early in the morning for me

most things you say are 120% true

you should come on the guy croft forum

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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Any pics of your 220 mate? sounds like a tool Turbo i take it?

Rob,
back then it was nos, lol. Thanks.









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wow that looks nice
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them are the wheels i have on my mondeo but mines a tdci and hasnt got nos


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