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Old 03-10-2010, 01:06 PM
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guys when looking at my engine on the end of the cam it says

x428...

and after searching this ive been told its a power engineering psx428 camshaft .... so how good are these and would they be able to hit 280bhp with a t34 and greys ... or should i take it out and get a decent cam now.

ive been speaking to companys that will make me up a custom cam to suit my engine and including solid lifters and valve springs to match with everything needed is only £395 so is it worth changing now or seeing what the cam i have is like as its mint

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Best cam out there imo,had one on my s2 years ago.
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Best cam out there imo,had one on my s2 years ago.
realy as ive been getting mixed views on it .... and my engine is a fully done out engine on gotech and t34 and now with grey injectors ... and im looking to run around 2bar boost , so will the cam be ok for this
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Personally if i had a beantin again id go for a newman cam,my grey s2 had the p/e cam in it and ran 231 bhp,so on a t34 id say you could get 280.
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Personally if i had a beantin again id go for a newman cam,my grey s2 had the p/e cam in it and ran 231 bhp,so on a t34 id say you could get 280.
its because i just want to do the car once and not to mess about so i might just get that camkit ive seen and sell mine as mine can be heard running and dont even tap a little
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Best cam out there imo,had one on my s2 years ago.
I second that the sx428t is a very good cam shame they dont make it no more.
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the one in my car is mint and the tappets aint even noisey but i need something that will make the power right upto the limiter .... at say 280+hp and if this cant then it will be for sale
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2 bar,you really going to run 30psi.Good stuff if you are.Be interesting to see the results.A custom cam for £400 is pretty cheap.I was told 500 to 700.Who doing the cam for you mate?
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its a kent cam its like a cvh37 but for solid lifters give a power band of 2500-7000rpm and yes im looking at running 2bar and it should see anything from 280bhp to just under 300bhp
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why dont u just buy a newman ??
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Setting aside the profile, any CVH cam made by Piper or Kent, in my experience, isn't going to last. So, as Stu said, fit the best of whats available, Newman.
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cheers guys i will do ive been told that alot now so must be the best option
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The only advantage to running a second hand cam is that after meassuring up to make sure it's within tolerance (or as close to) is that it wont fall apart (already work hardened) and send swarf round your nice new engine destroying your bottom end lol
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ive had my pe cam in 11 years now and its still as quiet as the day i fitted it, always made decent power and still is in its latest zvh guise, along with the pe stage 3 head which i fitted at the same time are probably the most reliable bits on the motor quality parts imo
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
The only advantage to running a second hand cam is that after meassuring up to make sure it's within tolerance (or as close to) is that it wont fall apart (already work hardened) and send swarf round your nice new engine destroying your bottom end lol
.....which goes entirely out of the window once you fit it with different followers.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
.....which goes entirely out of the window once you fit it with different followers.
Obviously you fit the same followers and pay attention to which lobe they ran on too... if your going to do it
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
The only advantage to running a second hand cam is that after meassuring up to make sure it's within tolerance (or as close to) is that it wont fall apart (already work hardened) and send swarf round your nice new engine destroying your bottom end lol
its not that i have had the head and cam for awhile but its never done more than a 1000 miles and before putting it on this bottom end i had the ports opened up more as it was just your standard stage3 spec big valve head ... and the cam was the original cam for my engine but was just wondering if it was man enough for my aims of 280+hp now i have the t34 and greys

if not then i will get the newman set up

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Only way you'll know for sure is to get the spec then and compare it to the likes of the Newmans and CVH37 etc.. or speak to someone who knows what cam spec is needed for your target BHP, Christan, Karl Norris, etc..
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well most people say newman and then a couple including jano says cvh37 but the newman seems to be on most these days... so wont the pe cam do the business .... but i need to get solid lifters so i can rev to around 7k with no problems
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I dont know the spec of the PE cam so have no idea, but I went for a Newman when I built mine because they do seem to be the best of a bad bunch and of course have solids for higher rpms (not that I actually rev that high but it's future proofing).
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well its next on the list along with a new boost controller as thats needed aswel ....

i was gunna keep the bits i didnt use for mine on the missus rs1600i but shes fitting a duratec in hers now
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if u dont end up using the pe cam how much do u want for it i had one in my last rs and i loved it wish i had takern it out befor i sold it as u can no buy them
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Mate, just run the engine with this cam. You will soon see if it makes the power or not. If it doesn't... swap it for something else.

And newmans fail too mate, its mixed reviews on them all. Im personally fitting a cvh34 and sorting out better lubrication because i like the profile, aiming for 250ish so we shall see,

Good luck

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wasnt the pe cam made from either kent or piper back in the day?
im sure the profile was near identical to one of them but with pe's name on it
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well im thinking about it but if i dont use it ive sorted out that karlos is having it.

the only reason im thinking of changing it is because i want to run solid lifters and set the rev limit around 7k
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Originally Posted by nigel b
wasnt the pe cam made from either kent or piper back in the day?
im sure the profile was near identical to one of them but with pe's name on it
correctamundo, it was made by piper, closest cam was the 285T

the PE cams were made years ago from good blanks, before the change to chocolate

Mark, stop being a goon & get the newman
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
correctamundo, it was made by piper, closest cam was the 285T

the PE cams were made years ago from good blanks, before the change to chocolate

Mark, stop being a goon & get the newman
get me some discount then darling..... lol and i want that second hand manifold and a inlet making up
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The PE sx428 cam is a kent cvh34 which was made in conjunction with ahmed b and rebranded by PE. Got told this when i was at grove garage years by ahmed.
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
it was made by piper, closest cam was the 285T

the PE cams were made years ago from good blanks, before the change to chocolate
Matt is correct the P.E sx428t was made by piper the guy who designed the piper cams was behind the P.E cam as he had the copyright to the profile or something like that. I was told that by power engineering themselfs.

Originally Posted by MarK4
The PE sx428 cam is a kent cvh34 which was made in conjunction with ahmed b and rebranded by PE. Got told this when i was at grove garage years by ahmed.
As what matt said mate
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its a good cam tho same they dont still make it as its a reliable set up...
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