jaiscossie

As Ive already put in another post my gearbox has gone again after only lasting around 1k miles. Its a cts stage 2 box and in all fairness im not to sure how well it was rebuilt last time.phoned a few specialists not to far from me and no one seems bothered about doing the job,need someone who can collect the car and take it away and do a proper full rebuild on they box not just throw it back together. Think it might stand more of a chance if done properly. Was thinking of going mtx route but just got a quote back of nearly 3k and to be honest I really dont want to spend that much at the current time. So with all that in mind does anyone have any suggestions as im willing to be good money for a good job

Versus_Creations

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Fit a better box for half that money.

jaiscossie

What box do you suggest.

xr2wishy

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mtx could be done for far less.
mtx box £100
strip and rebuild £300
atb diff £600
so for a grand you've got a good box.

selector setup £50
hydraulic clutch setup £100
new bigger clutch £400 or less depending on make etc.

custom drive shafts circa £200-300
so around £2k if i do the maths with someone fitting it i reckon, not a lot of work involved really and the same route my xr2 zvh turbo will be going after the wedding.
Although i'm just going to fit a non atb box in first just to get all the parts sorted, so around £1k then spend on an atb diff later and rebuilt box.

Canada1

Find a gearbox form a 1989-1995 Ford taurus SHO.
Same bolt pattern as 1.6 cvh.
You will require a different clutch disc as these ones are 7/8" 20 spline input shaft.
There is also a Quaiffe diff available for this gearbox.

These gearboxes were standard on the 3.0 and 3.2 Yamaha V6 engines.

MTX 75 is also a great option - I think it requires some cutting as it is longer
than stock gearbox.

jaiscossie

Going from bad to worse. Spoke to a good place near me. They said last full rebuild on a rs turbo box was quite a while back but was around £350 plus fitting it back in. Not bad at all I thought worth a go for that. They said they would get back to me with an exact price. Just called me back £820 ffs.

12_Second_rst

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Just sell the diff out of the cts box and mtx it mate it's done then I know of a guy that can do it for you pm if ur interested

jaiscossie

What part of the country is he mate

12_Second_rst

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Ahh just noticed your in Essex he's in Wales so would be about 4 hours down m4

Daveysaff

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Send Jano a PM and get a quote for an MTX box. Its done then and no more faffing about looking for a decent box

jaiscossie

Whats his user name on here is it the guy from futher up the thread?

12_Second_rst

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He's not on here mate welsh coast customs there called can get you there number if you want they did the box in my car

Bryan_RST

ya Versus_Creations is jano

creator

jano been doing mtx conversions for years mate.his prices are the cheapest also and he has custom shafts made ect

massivewangers

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It's probably worthwhile just stumping for an MTX. Even if you rebuild the CTS box there's no telling how long it will last. They just don't seem to take the power in high spec cars from what I've seen.

MTX seems the cheaper option in the long run!

Daveysaff

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As someone has said above, Janos username is Versus Creations
Even if you dont buy off him, in my experience his advice is spot on

andy130

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ring ian howell hes built some big bhp zvh's so he should no of a good box, look at paul j's rst box lasted him ages now rst-g has it in his zetec turbo still going strong, another one ian built iir.

dave_s2_rst

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where is ian howell based?

morph

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Pm sent

DNA Tuner

I was breaking RST gearboxes often with around 220 ft/lb of torque, i went down the scrappy and bought an ib5 gearbox from a 1.4CVH MK6 Escort with 90k on the clock for £50, just to get me mobile again and that was 18months ago, the gearchange is perfect, no stiring soup, iv driven 15k on this gearbox and its only coming out the car so i can fit the LSD out of my shitty rst box. only thing i needed to buy was a larger thrust bearing for the ib5 box.

Alg1k

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I have had my gbox rebuilt a number of times at cts
I had it built just before i did another track day ,
It wasnt good coming into a corner not being able to select the correct gear,
I have a lightweight tripple clutch which mark pointed out you need for high rev gear changes
There was also a bad vibration through the car which i suspect is the box which i think may have been one of the factors of my engines demise,
Im going to be looking at the tremec i know real steel do them as does Martin
I think this could be the way forward ,
I know a lot of 10 sec american drag cars use them and there cars arnt exactly light weight the only concern i have is that there bolted to relativley low reving v engines
and as Dingy has commented would the box be anygood on the back of a high rever on track ???

jonny s2

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stu collins runs a big bearing box and is still loving it speak to him

andy130

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some thing else will fail then

Chopshop85

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WHAT!!! I had a guy come out in a van to my house, Stripped and rebuilt the gearbox in the back of his van and helped me put it back in the car for £300.

It was only a std slip diff rst box. But still.

jonny s2

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hes been running that box for ages with well over 300+hp

probably will break sometime, but if jamie dont want to spend serious cash yet speak to stu, he will put you in the right direction. it will put you on untill you sort what you want to do

crazycage

paul j broke that box over 12 times lol,and since rst-g has had it its never been on the road! Mtx or 6speed is the only way to go with big! power

morph

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+1 much better box!

Daveysaff

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Beat me to it lol
Drop the lad a PM Gary, give him a shopping list
You had any luck with my head btw?

jonny s2

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zetecs are easier,cvh's are more complex.
wonder if someone this side of the pond has fitted a rear starter gearbox ie mtx/ getrag 6 speed to a cvh

crazycage

you can swap the bell housing on the mtx to a front starter from a mondeo for use in a cvh.

jonny s2

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can this be done with the getrag 6 speeder do you know gary??
need to seriously start looking into other ways for the cvh

crazycage

when do you need it back? Wont take me long to finish off but been up the wall with ricks car and richies lol

Daveysaff

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Not in any rush mate, still cant get my bloody flywheel off lol so the bottom end isnt going together just yet!!

bezo

i run the same box as stu on my zvh, been running it for over a year with no hassle.

i got the box off simon, he used to run this box on his before he went getreg.

jonny s2

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bezo what power and torque have you got,dont sound a bad box for the money

bezo

269.2whp 284torque @ 18psi BUT, ive never had it on a DD rollind road.

JMS Erst

I would like to keep my cvh without going to zvh just to fit the getrag 6 speed, I've gone through 3 bc box's in mine, I think it also depends on the way you drive that will show how long parts will last, I think the best person to ask would be Simon from sitec, as I asked him about getrag to cvh conversion he posted back saying it can be done but it's alot of work and the cvh sump would need modifying in some way.. Hope this helps
(jonboy)

XRT_si

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Wouldn't go 6 speed, MTX is a stronger box apparentely. Depending on power of course.

bezo

nothing wrong with a 6 speeder, simon from sitech has run a getreg for many years at 380hp with no problems