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Old 26-05-2010, 02:43 PM
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Canada1, is the picture that you posted up with roller rockers, using an 1800CVH head?
Old 26-05-2010, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nigel b
didnt it used to be titan that made the roller rockers?
ill have no oil problems in mine hopefully

memory serves you well young jedi

i spoke to them many moons ago and got no joy with them
Old 26-05-2010, 06:37 PM
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im sure mark shead tried a set too but hated them and went back to the standard set up
Old 26-05-2010, 07:28 PM
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Howdoo all. Spoke to newman cams today and look like i was right.. i got one of the very few cams that fail on a plus side they are making me a new cam and sending it out no charge. Just shows it wasn't down to poor oil pressure or poor fitting..
Old 26-05-2010, 08:55 PM
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top customer service there!!!

glad it worked out
Old 26-05-2010, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RST_Rob
Howdoo all. Spoke to newman cams today and look like i was right.. i got one of the very few cams that fail on a plus side they are making me a new cam and sending it out no charge. Just shows it wasn't down to poor oil pressure or poor fitting..
but why didnt newmans inspection pick up the poor quality?
they should of had the material certs and checked the hardness
Old 26-05-2010, 11:51 PM
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Im afraid thats just life.Things always get through time to time and it sucks but we are human!

Its a big kick in the balls when it happens!
Old 27-05-2010, 06:47 AM
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As essexRSTsouthend said its just one of those things but glad its all sorted and hope this cam lasts alot longer lol!
Old 27-05-2010, 07:30 AM
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I really dont know if this is fact but i have some kind of info from Redline that most modern motor oils have less zincdialkylditiophosphate than before because that is bad to catalysators. Zincdialkylditiophosphate is some kind of oil component which adds that wear protection or something. Redline oils do have this additive same amount in the 1980´s.. I dont know is this some kind of marketing shit but just mention.

I have piper 285t2 cam kit and engine is still running smoothly, maybe 2000kilometres driven. I really think this camshaft thing that is service item in rs turbo. No panic.

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Originally Posted by RST_Rob
Howdoo all. Spoke to newman cams today and look like i was right.. i got one of the very few cams that fail on a plus side they are making me a new cam and sending it out no charge. Just shows it wasn't down to poor oil pressure or poor fitting..
Thats good for them firstly to admit that and secondly to fix it.

Only question i have now is where did the worn material go and what else did it damage on the way.
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Also how did you or the comapny figure out that it was one of the faulty batch??? Is there a part number or date stamp etc?

Do share the info so anyone else can at least check.
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i'd suspect they don't think it's part of a batch, just a one off.
fair play to them replacing it, but they should pay for anyother work that their failed componant may have caused and to pay for fittting of new item.
Back in the day my cousin had a Kent cam fitted by an engine builder in his new build engine, it fell apart and took other bits of the engine with it. Kent not only replaced the cam, but paid for all other work to get the engine back to the condition it should have been in if the cam didn't fail in the first place, jolly good of them in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Antti O
I really dont know if this is fact but i have some kind of info from Redline that most modern motor oils have less zincdialkylditiophosphate than before because that is bad to catalysators. Zincdialkylditiophosphate is some kind of oil component which adds that wear protection or something. Redline oils do have this additive same amount in the 1980´s.. I dont know is this some kind of marketing shit but just mention.

I have piper 285t2 cam kit and engine is still running smoothly, maybe 2000kilometres driven. I really think this camshaft thing that is service item in rs turbo. No panic.
Burton Power have a page written up about this mate.Check the catalogue out.I've been thinking about using this myself.But just something i not got around to with spending on other parts.
Old 27-05-2010, 05:40 PM
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Yeah as said it wasnt a faulty batch just one that had slipped through. As for worn material off the cam it started to wear my big end bearings also checked the mains but seem fine so have renewed the oil + filter and renewed bearings with acl ones. To be honest im not interested in trying to get newmans to pay for any of the damages as they have done what i was hoping and replaced the fooked cam. Im just in 2 minds wether to fit it or not or keep my kent cvh31 in there as im only after 250bhp and i made 232 with the kent before and now have bigger injectors on there way.
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what turbo you using rob to get that power
Old 27-05-2010, 07:38 PM
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Stage 3 turbo technic's mate
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Originally Posted by Versus_Creations
Canada1, is the picture that you posted up with roller rockers, using an 1800CVH head?
No mate, he's using an american 1.9 HO head.

Rob
Old 28-05-2010, 11:54 AM
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Im going to check the valve clearences in mine, if theyre ok i'll whip my newman out and have a look. Got a top end knock going on
Old 28-05-2010, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Antti O
I really dont know if this is fact but i have some kind of info from Redline that most modern motor oils have less zincdialkylditiophosphate than before because that is bad to catalysators. Zincdialkylditiophosphate is some kind of oil component which adds that wear protection or something. Redline oils do have this additive same amount in the 1980´s.. I dont know is this some kind of marketing shit but just mention.
IIRC this only applies to mineral/semi oils, 3 Ester fully synth oils do not benefit from this addative.
Originally Posted by Versus_Creations
Thats good for them firstly to admit that and secondly to fix it.

Only question i have now is where did the worn material go and what else did it damage on the way.
I think it may just be a 'benefit of the doubt' replacement, 99% of companies would do this at least once, I dont think they are admitting anything.

One of Stu's magnetic sump plugs is essential on a CVH IMO, with such a high cam failure rate! Anything to help reduce collateral damage!
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