Butchi

Hello.

What have you for coments of this intercooler? I know its not the best IC for the ERST but is it good for 200 HP?

BR Butchi

Dar-rst

i had one on my rs, was fine mate seemed to work fine and mine was runing about 176bhp at 15psi

liam-rst

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yh m8 my old rst was 226 seemed fine

studabear

most people on here will say only any good on standard boost, if the bost is increased the struggle to keep the acts down to a good level

morph

iTrader: (1)

if your not going to run much more boost than say 14 - 18 psi then i would stick with a double capacity intercooler as it will keep the response from the turbo better than say a fmic. but if you are going to run more boost than that then i would look at changing to a fmic. the pace ones are good and i know several people that were running them on 200bhp+ with no problems, did notice the cooler swell on the ends due to the amount of boost it was pushing through!

Oranoco

Pace double capacity can't cope with anything much above stock boost. I ran one on my old spec at 18psi and it was seriously underperforming. I made 199bhp on the rollers at SCA in Norwich and the operator commented that the ACT's were off the scale. Even running it alongside water injection didn't drop th etemps to an acceptable level. Since fitting the full width Pace I now run the car at 26psi and the ACT's never seem to exceed 40°C unless I'm being an animal on track.

Honestly mate I would recomend you do the job right first time out and fit something like a GRS/Radtec/Pace full width or even an Airtec front mount. There's nothing more annoying than having to pay out a second time because you purchased the wrong kit

Micky

From my personal experience they are rubbish.Running 18 psi on track and within 2 mins the ACT was over 70c!!You could feel the power draining away as the Ign was being retarded.Unless you only give youre car the odd blast in Maccie D's carpark I'd keep well away.Total waste of money/time and effort in fitting one. Micky

T28 RST

No better than standard

Chris69

no better than standard at 15psi +, agreed.
fine as a better cooler for upto that though imo- good for about 180/185bhp- felt alot better at 14psi than my standard one ever did so to say its no better is rubbish, its just no substitute for a frount mount at higher pressure.

morph

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stock boost is around 9-10psi, you running 18psi wasn't exactly close to that, if someone who wants to run around 15psi, dont you think a fmic would be an massive overkill?
i agree if your going to run 18psi and above then no way it can't cope but that nearly doubling the boost capacity of a stock intercooler.

liam-rst

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as prev said i was runnin 226 in my old rst @ 16psi an never reall had any trouble, did get act's a lil hot on track but not that bad, as i had it as a every day driver i worked really well imho

Oranoco

Stock boost is about 7-8psi so 15psi is near as damn it double. The car ran in several guises and at the time I added the Pace it was pretty much the only thing available. Even at 14-15psi it could only cope with short blats before the ACT's became to high and you felt the ignition being retarded I wouldn't rate the Pace item above about 12psi. I melted several ACT guage sensors on the Pace which is something I've not managed to do on the full width item despite being a hooligan.

So no I wouldn't say it was overkill at all, I would say it was buying the right kit to do the job. The small Pace intercooler just doesn't come close to cutting it expecially with the intercoolers that are on the market now. If you buy a Pace half width you can expect to be buying twice.

Oranoco

16psi won't get 226bhp in a million years from a 1600 CVH, sorry mate, just not possible

Dar-rst

how can it be no better then standard?? its twice the size

liam-rst

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did u hear me mention anythin about it being a 1600 cvh? why try an make me look a cunt, ill scan the graph later an pm u it if your so sure im talkin shit

Dar-rst

mate i noticed alot of people are like that on here, half the time cause its text you cant read it how they mean it, but other times yeah there just trying to out smart you lol

liam-rst

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there is just no need for it, an for all the other doubters out there

Dar-rst

lmfao

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

firstly where did i call oranoco a name? secondly bein over 200 bhp would be quite obvious to me it was modded in some way shape or form so assumpion goes out the window especially as a hell of alot of rsts dont run stock engines
an as for reaction your provocin the same 1 from me,

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

all the man wants is opinions an as usual all u get is people tryin to mug other people off by lookin smarter than them

liam-rst

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which means he thinks im runnin a 1.6 an chattin shit as i was only 1 who mentioned 226 bhp an your welcome to your opinion m8

Chris69

another topic, touched by the passionford know it all crew- they are right we are all wrong, bow down to them

Oranoco

Wow hold up there Mr Angry. I wasn't trying to make you look like anything at all. All you needed to say is that it's not a 1600cc CVH and that would have settled the matter. Deviating from the CVH kind of undermines your findings of the intercooler. Anyway it doesn't look like I need to make you look a c*nt as you seem to have done quite a good enough job of that on your own by your stroppy response.

liam-rst

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liam-rst

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well as it was a zvh an retained all normal rst induction i would say it is revelant an my stroppy response was caused by the usual kno it all people whos knowledge far out weighs anyones experience

Dar-rst

i love this i missed EastEnders the last week but hey passion fords coming up trumps

like i said i had a double capacity pace cooler and was running 15psi and it ran fine pulled well and all that but i didn't want the car for track or bragging rights it was perfecty quick enough to slay some chavs and keep me smiling....

liam-rst

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think someone might have a clinker stuck on the end of there nose!

liam-rst

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wots common sense here then? an butchi sorry fella i was just tryin to give u my opinion based on my experience, didnt mean to ruin the thread m8

JamboRS

am afriad that bollox mate,i ran 214@wheels,over 226@flywheel on 17psi so im sure at 1 psi less id still have made over 226@fly,still on a 1600.boost and power are not related,as you dont know what turbo he runs,16psi on a std turbo yes id say its maybe a bit much but running a stg 3 or even a t34 16psi will piss 220bhp in a zillion years never mind a million

Dar-rst

JamboRS

did he edit or something cos i cant see anywhere where he's made himself look like a plank or call oranaco any names???
think it was oranaco that took a swipe first and turbocabessex reply wasnt really that out of order as far as i can see.

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

u mean like not buttin into other peoples convo an givin your unwanted opinion?

liam-rst

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thank you that man