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Old 16-02-2011, 05:03 PM
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feel for you D4,

Neil your a naughty boy for bringing that back up
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like i said COWBOYS .
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My old fiesta bay..


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made over 300 on standard head tho
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Originally Posted by stuart collins
turbo was fucked , all 4 pistons melted , all 4 injectors blocked with silcone gasket shit inside the inlet, same gasket shit all around the crank, rs 500 intercooler welded to the rad and loads more . shame as its a nice lookin car

Who was the tuner again, EP?
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Originally Posted by Karlos G

Who was the tuner again, EP?
as in danny an luke at EP
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IIRC Yes.
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Still some nice rs turbos about then.
Very nice
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Originally Posted by SiZT
How long until Ricks car is done then? Must be a hefty turbo with a 4in downpipe
will be on the road this year but only running a t34 flat out to see how the car feels and get it all dialled in! then it will swapped for one from bog warner efr range.
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Originally Posted by MO RS TURBO
MESCORT thats mad! spec?

it got 220 bhp on a dynapack with 95 octane.. i hope for 250 bhp on e85
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Originally Posted by d4 rst
IT went BANG in 2 DAYS
Originally Posted by stuart collins
turbo was fucked , all 4 pistons melted , all 4 injectors blocked with silcone gasket shit inside the inlet, same gasket shit all around the crank, rs 500 intercooler welded to the rad and loads more . shame as its a nice lookin car
Jesus!

What did EP have to say about it? Did you go back to them?
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Rob- I would hazard a guess at it being deleted on request

Johnny- Meeee? Naaah, but these questions needed asking didn't they?



D4, first off. While you did make yourself look a massive spakker on your original thread that is a huge shame and nobody deserves that. Shame.

So, what is the outcome? What did you pay? Any guarentee? How many miles did you get? What's been said? That sounds rougher than a budgies cage.

Wish i could say i was suprised...
Old 17-02-2011, 09:06 AM
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So whats then plan with the new build then d4? lower power with better power curve or are you going to be on the heels of mr collins for all out power/lunacy??

Keep us updated pal
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Originally Posted by Neil@FastFord
Rob- I would hazard a guess at it being deleted on request

Johnny- Meeee? Naaah, but these questions needed asking didn't they?



D4, first off. While you did make yourself look a massive spakker on your original thread that is a huge shame and nobody deserves that. Shame.

So, what is the outcome? What did you pay? Any guarentee? How many miles did you get? What's been said? That sounds rougher than a budgies cage.

Wish i could say i was suprised...


HERE GOES!


this is a picture of the engine bay when i got the car back:


Dropped the car in june 2009
gave tuner the car with a power engineering stage 2 conversion running 233bhp
also gave him a brand new stage 3 big valve head with cam, fully gas flowed and ported and polished have reciept for £1000.
Also gave a brand new set of wossener pistons and pec rods and ap bolts.
What i wanted was for my car to be running independant management system and a reliable and solid engine.

I collected the car approx 1 year later.
drove it back and to london ace cafe,
a day later and it started to smoke.
spoke to tuner and he said to me what have a done to the car? i told him i have driven it to ace cafe and that was it, also i did not drive the car like a nutter just took it easy.
Then he said he would come collect the car within a few days from my work place.
I waited 2 weeks and several phone calls and messages left but still no replies or collection of the car.

I got fed up of waiting and decided to give the car to jamsport to see what was wrong.
jamsport checked engine and gave me a report and bascally the following problems were picked up:
turbo blown also it had been welded to manifold
injectors not seated properly and held in with silcon stuff.
piston damage due to injector leak and leaning
head was not a stage 3 head it was a completly standard rs turbo head.
efi plenuim was bodged completely and rendered useless.
the block was not flat so it would blow the headgaskit.
Injectors were also no good.

Phone tuner up and advised him of the above problems and he did say he would cover all the work under warranty for the above.
I also was pissed off about my stage 3 head not been on the car and he told me that he had cracked it, however this was not told to me at the time of him building my engine up.
So he advised me he would collect the car and sort everything out.
He did not collect car and i had left many messages with his staff as he was never there!

so i decided to speak with jamie and not have any more heartache and worries of my car been ruined.

Bottom line was i gave the car for over 1 year to the tuner and even in that time he was unable to make a reliable running car.
I have had my fingers burnt badly and learnt my lesson.
Old 17-02-2011, 11:16 AM
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Who had the car then first?
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Wow!

I would want to see the "cracked" head if it was mine....when i have damaged parts, they have always been waiting in a pile for me to inspect.

Roughness....
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Bloody hell mate!

You want to put that in General Discussion and make people aware, there's people on here that take their car there!

Even if there's another side to this story that inlet manifold looks horrendous! Is it just the picture or is it not symmetrical across all for cylinders? Looks 'notched' for the first cylinder?!

Dare I ask how much they charged?

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So to clear something up, was it EP who carried out the above work and basically fucked it or someone else?
Old 17-02-2011, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by muz
So to clear something up, was it EP who carried out the above work and basically fucked it or someone else?
Read a page back and you will soon pick this up!
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I've got say though, whoever did the work in that picture should be ashamed. What a fucking hash!
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Originally Posted by Neil@FastFord
Wow!

I would want to see the "cracked" head if it was mine....when i have damaged parts, they have always been waiting in a pile for me to inspect.

Roughness....
Thats what i told d4 to do! Not telling him that it was on the car, sounds to me like that he thought he had got away with it.
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Originally Posted by muz
I've got say though, whoever did the work in that picture should be ashamed. What a fucking hash!
Worse of all that used to be a perfect efi inlet that would of more than done the job before it was created into a hockey stick!
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Hmm....


And your own story wasn't a bed of roses either was it mate? :-/
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Originally Posted by Neil@FastFord
Hmm....


And your own story wasn't a bed of roses either was it mate? :-/
yes mate, at least jampsort sorted out all the issues that the previous tuner had cocked up!
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Originally Posted by morph
Thats what i told d4 to do! Not telling him that it was on the car, sounds to me like that he thought he had got away with it.

That's certainly what it sounds like! Even if it is genuine, what kind of company doesn't at least TELL you the £1000 worth of Stage 3 head cracked and a standard head is now on it?

Truly shocking!
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Aye, told ya Jamsport are great with CVH's/

Crazy though...was you told 300bhp...then when you asked again they said it was 270bhp...and it was something like 185bhp? What other issues? Sadly this happens a fair bit it would appear.

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Originally Posted by morph
yes mate, at least jampsort sorted out all the issues that the previous tuner had cocked up!
In the words of Frankie Boyle - "Whats your story weeman?"
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that pipe welded to the inlet was bending the brake master cyclinder and servo eveytime the engine moved on the mounts , could off ended up with no bakes on it as well , it was that close u could nt even get the head off, there are loads more bodges with it that havent been said there just main ones

nice mod
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Originally Posted by d4 rst
HERE GOES!


Dropped the car in june 2009
gave tuner the car with a power engineering stage 2 conversion running 233bhp
also gave him a brand new stage 3 big valve head with cam, fully gas flowed and ported and polished have reciept for £1000.
Also gave a brand new set of wossener pistons and pec rods and ap bolts.
What i wanted was for my car to be running independant management system and a reliable and solid engine.

I collected the car approx 1 year later.
drove it back and to london ace cafe,
a day later and it started to smoke.
spoke to tuner and he said to me what have a done to the car? i told him i have driven it to ace cafe and that was it, also i did not drive the car like a nutter just took it easy.
Then he said he would come collect the car within a few days from my work place.
I waited 2 weeks and several phone calls and messages left but still no replies or collection of the car.

I got fed up of waiting and decided to give the car to jamsport to see what was wrong.
jamsport checked engine and gave me a report and bascally the following problems were picked up:
turbo blown also it had been welded to manifold
injectors not seated properly and held in with silcon stuff.
piston damage due to injector leak and leaning
head was not a stage 3 head it was a completly standard rs turbo head.
efi plenuim was bodged completely and rendered useless.
the block was not flat so it would blow the headgaskit.
Injectors were also no good.

Phone tuner up and advised him of the above problems and he did say he would cover all the work under warranty for the above.
I also was pissed off about my stage 3 head not been on the car and he told me that he had cracked it, however this was not told to me at the time of him building my engine up.
So he advised me he would collect the car and sort everything out.
He did not collect car and i had left many messages with his staff as he was never there!

so i decided to speak with jamie and not have any more heartache and worries of my car been ruined.

Bottom line was i gave the car for over 1 year to the tuner and even in that time he was unable to make a reliable running car.
I have had my fingers burnt badly and learnt my lesson.

D4, thats the most coherent well written few paragraphs i have ever seen you type. Keep it up!! Sorry to hear about your car, i think you were a bit of an idiot going on and on about it last year but you don't deserve that.

I don't know why you just don't go down there and have a face to face chat? why hide behind the phone. I certainly wouldn't!

Morph, you were utterly singing their praises a few years back and got quite rude any time someone mentioned your lack of 300 brake. If you hadn't sung their praises so much i wonder if d4 would have ever gone there in the first place?
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Originally Posted by stuart collins
that pipe welded to the inlet was bending the brake master cyclinder and servo eveytime the engine moved on the mounts , could off ended up with no bakes on it as well , it was that close u could nt even get the head off, there are loads more bodges with it that havent been said there just main ones

nice mod
i think its a pattern of things here, mine had brake issues where i thought the pads were worn out it turned out that the tuner had refitted the calipers and discs without the right amount of bolts so the calipers was digging into the disc! if i had done a high speed braking i could have toppled the car over.
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Morph, you were utterly singing their praises a few years back and got quite rude any time someone mentioned your lack of 300 brake. If you hadn't sung their praises so much i wonder if d4 would have ever gone there in the first place?
rob i dont reply to any of your posts since you were so rude about a year ago.
However regarding me singing prasies, i did until i had the car checked over and found out the following things:
the claimed 276bhp was infact 200bhp
the brakes were dangerous,
the inlet was not supported to the plenuim in anyway apart for the injectors holding it in place
the injectors were not seated far enough in.
numerous bolts missing from engine
the manifold had a bolt in it which wasn't even tight.
the co 2 level was around 11% idle.
mapping was awefull.

even though the above things were wrong the rebuild was ok on my car.
just finishing touches were not right.
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you were a bit of a cock Morph, but no one deserves the above. Would like to hear the other side of the story as well etc. Perhaps don't rant on about how amazing something is until you know a little better?
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As already said d4 you didn't do yourself any favours but christ these blokes are complete and utter cowboys i hope you get it sorted mate
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
D4, thats the most coherent well written few paragraphs i have ever seen you type. Keep it up!!

Totally

Intresting things here .... I wonder if John with the S1 will join the post with his compelling dossier of pictures?

I saw those and, well....
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Originally Posted by muz
So to clear something up, was it EP who carried out the above work and basically fucked it or someone else?
So this was Enhanced Performances work that went pop?
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Originally Posted by Neil@FastFord
Totally

Intresting things here .... I wonder if John with the S1 will join the post with his compelling dossier of pictures?

I saw those and, well....
I was just about to mention John I too have seen the pics!
Yet another customer that came away with an engine that only lasted about 80miles before going bang after spending £1000's with them, IIRC they rebuilt it after a cam failure and didnt even change the oil so the swarf then ripped out the main/big end shells
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Hey Karl Neil I'll be on later ! Proper read through this ! Signed yours truely S1johnS1!
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Hey Karl Neil I'll be on later ! Proper read through this ! Signed yours truely S1johnS1!
Ah new username! New car I assume then mate??
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Hey Karl Neil I'll be on later ! Proper read through this ! Signed yours truely S1johnS1!

JOHN MATE! i was trying to track you down a while ago to say hello! how are things mate? still with the mr2?

Rob,
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Originally Posted by morph
However regarding me singing prasies, i did until i had the car checked over and found out the following things:
the claimed 276bhp was infact 200bhp
That is why big claimed power numbers are questioned here -

Most blokes couldn't tell the difference between 200 hp and 300 anyhow - both power levels will melt tires, and break standard gearboxes.

I personally don't want a 300 hp front drive escort (4500 to 6000 power band) - hoping for a wide useable powerband (2500 to 6000 rpm).

Cheers guys!


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