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18-02-2011, 10:09 AM
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I have been told fuck loads mate. Sadly.
Most places have had a bad job, or a bad customer. But i see too many bold claims and blind hype on here. It's weak!
Most places have had a bad job, or a bad customer. But i see too many bold claims and blind hype on here. It's weak!
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18-02-2011, 11:09 AM
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And without sticking my tounge up Christians ass, he got a bit of stick when he said a genuine 300BHP was very hard to do properly, thats spec wasn't good enough etc and when the graphs came out was shot down as they had acheived it, then it held togther for all of 5 minutes then went bang....seems he was right afterall.
I am not going to make any claims on what power my car is or will be as after speaking to jamie, i just want a reliable running car.
18-02-2011, 11:10 AM
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Well we have all been done outta pocket! You just live and learn suppose, Costly learning mind you.
18-02-2011, 11:20 AM
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Yes christain was 100% correct and what he said was true in regards to getting 300bhp from a cvh engine but i had already had my car there and could not pull out by that time.
I am not going to make any claims on what power my car is or will be as after speaking to jamie, i just want a reliable running car.
I am not going to make any claims on what power my car is or will be as after speaking to jamie, i just want a reliable running car.
You sound like you're genuinely gutted too which is perfectly understandable. You need to warn people of your experiences mate.
18-02-2011, 11:24 AM
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Heres the link to the general forum post that s1 john has started.
Well done s1 john! about time we did something.
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...e-colours.html
More comments welcome. thanks lads
Well done s1 john! about time we did something.
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...e-colours.html
More comments welcome. thanks lads
18-02-2011, 11:38 AM
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Cummpance mate hope this bite's them in the arse!!
18-02-2011, 11:43 AM
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jamsport fucked me over a couple years ago too. a mate of mine recommended them to use for my rst cosworth management I wanted. asked them to do my hybrid dizzy so my mate dropped in 1 rst dizzy and 1 cossie one. they rang to say was done so flew down to northhampton and grabbed it. got back went to fit it only to find my dizzy had 3 tacks of weld around it and two of them were cracked and the shaft wasn't exactly free spinning either. not what you'd call 80 fucking quids worth of workmanship.
I was shocked as a hell of a lot of people recommend them. thought you know what fuck it, put it in my tool box and looked at other options for management. why waste my time and money at somewhere that obviously don't give a fuck unless you give them 2000 for a conversion. well that's the impression I got.
just my experience. was about 5 years ago. interesting guys are still singing there praises.
I was shocked as a hell of a lot of people recommend them. thought you know what fuck it, put it in my tool box and looked at other options for management. why waste my time and money at somewhere that obviously don't give a fuck unless you give them 2000 for a conversion. well that's the impression I got.
just my experience. was about 5 years ago. interesting guys are still singing there praises.
18-02-2011, 11:53 AM
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How's the RS mate? The magnecores still going strong?
lol.
18-02-2011, 02:04 PM
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Am onto another one now i broke the grey one sold most of the bits and kept decent stuff for my white one and yes m8 they are on my white one now but am changing them to motorsport leads as got a slight missfire so changing the leads and plugs as everything else has been checked and its only very slight at around 30-40mph, what you driving now m8?? to do with ep surely you must be entitled to some kind of compensation??
18-02-2011, 02:21 PM
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Sorry to hear about the cars being fucked.
Me and Jambo were correct about something, EP were cowboys and the cars didn't make the power that you guys were told.
I would get this posted everywhere so it doesn't happen to any other person.
Me and Jambo were correct about something, EP were cowboys and the cars didn't make the power that you guys were told.
I would get this posted everywhere so it doesn't happen to any other person.
18-02-2011, 02:54 PM
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it was only a matter of time untill they went tits up. ive heard another horror story about a mr2 turbo i think. something never seemed right, every cossie seems to go there and instantly be mapped to 500bhp.
it sounded like all you needed was a cone filter and they would give you 600bhp lol.
it sounded like all you needed was a cone filter and they would give you 600bhp lol.
18-02-2011, 03:42 PM
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Wow dude you been a busy bee, Thats gutted about the misfire though . Compemsation your joking man, I struggled for about a month getting the 1K out of him to have the engine stripped and re-built only problem was it would cost more than that because after you say luke danny EP to most MOST other tuner's there like fuck i aint touching it, So need's a whole new build 4K+ again.
. Compemsation your joking man, I struggled for about a month getting the 1K out of him to have the engine stripped and re-built only problem was it would cost more than that because after you say luke danny EP to most MOST other tuner's there like fuck i aint touching it, So need's a whole new build 4K+ again.
18-02-2011, 03:59 PM
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CheeRS johnny was once a nice motor.......ONCE.
Just get's me really, Just man up admit and take blame. I warned luke i would be back for him as he wasn't going to get away with it by that i mean name and shame.
Just get's me really, Just man up admit and take blame. I warned luke i would be back for him as he wasn't going to get away with it by that i mean name and shame.
18-02-2011, 04:19 PM
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CheeRS mate,
18-02-2011, 07:44 PM
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Fucking hell. I've only skipped over the last 2-3 pages of this thread, but my oh my.
So, my gut feelings all along were pretty much on the money. I'm not here to rub anything in, D4 I really feel for you.
Furthermore, my words are as follows to anyone wanting 300bhp from a 1600CVH. Take it or leave it.
Firstly, good luck arriving at a spec that will do 300bhp. There aren't parts on the shelf that will do it. Additionally, there are only a handful of tuners in the UK capable of doing it, regardless of how much money you line their pockets with. To pay someone to do it that hasn't got a clear vision of how to achieve it or the talent to actually get the results will probably end in tears. Expensive ones. I say that getting 300bhp from a 1600CVH is along the same lines as making a genuine 600bhp from a 2000cc YB.
Secondly, once you have arrived at a spec, don't think the hard work stops there. You'll have parts that you think will work but for unexplained reasons, just won't. It was this that made the final decision for my RST to come apart. That T38 was just wrong. How could it have been wrong? It was too big. FACT.
Thirdly, if you do manage it, that thing must run like a well-oiled machine. The problem I spotted with D4 was the weird graph trend. Aside from the graph being bollocks in my opinion, it had an 'unhappy' curve. A power curve that peaks hard and drops fast belongs to an engine that really isn't happy and it won't last. Simply seeing a power figure on a spurious run doesn't make it so. I hit almost 370bhp with mine. I ran 2.4 bar of boost to do it, believe me, I could have posted that graph and said it was what I had, but unless the car can actually run it, then it's not worth the paper it's printed on. It was much happier at 350bhp and MASSIVELY happier at 335-340bhp.
My GT30 was another example. It was a turbo that on paper should have done the numbers, but it didn't. It managed barely any more power than the GT28RS that went before it. OK, granted it was enough to break 170mph, but it obviously wasn't happy. My plan was to take it off after that event and sell it on. It was, in my opinion, too big. So would have suited an 1800-2000cc engine, but not my little 1600. However, I didn't get that chance because it shit itself and I still say that's because it was operating inefficiently.
There is much more of a science to it than many appreciate, but the fundamental thing that is needed first of all is a decent good quality engine build and it seems thats what was lacking here.
D4, take it all the way. Fucking crooks.
So, my gut feelings all along were pretty much on the money. I'm not here to rub anything in, D4 I really feel for you.
Furthermore, my words are as follows to anyone wanting 300bhp from a 1600CVH. Take it or leave it.
Firstly, good luck arriving at a spec that will do 300bhp. There aren't parts on the shelf that will do it. Additionally, there are only a handful of tuners in the UK capable of doing it, regardless of how much money you line their pockets with. To pay someone to do it that hasn't got a clear vision of how to achieve it or the talent to actually get the results will probably end in tears. Expensive ones. I say that getting 300bhp from a 1600CVH is along the same lines as making a genuine 600bhp from a 2000cc YB.
Secondly, once you have arrived at a spec, don't think the hard work stops there. You'll have parts that you think will work but for unexplained reasons, just won't. It was this that made the final decision for my RST to come apart. That T38 was just wrong. How could it have been wrong? It was too big. FACT.
Thirdly, if you do manage it, that thing must run like a well-oiled machine. The problem I spotted with D4 was the weird graph trend. Aside from the graph being bollocks in my opinion, it had an 'unhappy' curve. A power curve that peaks hard and drops fast belongs to an engine that really isn't happy and it won't last. Simply seeing a power figure on a spurious run doesn't make it so. I hit almost 370bhp with mine. I ran 2.4 bar of boost to do it, believe me, I could have posted that graph and said it was what I had, but unless the car can actually run it, then it's not worth the paper it's printed on. It was much happier at 350bhp and MASSIVELY happier at 335-340bhp.
My GT30 was another example. It was a turbo that on paper should have done the numbers, but it didn't. It managed barely any more power than the GT28RS that went before it. OK, granted it was enough to break 170mph, but it obviously wasn't happy. My plan was to take it off after that event and sell it on. It was, in my opinion, too big. So would have suited an 1800-2000cc engine, but not my little 1600. However, I didn't get that chance because it shit itself and I still say that's because it was operating inefficiently.
There is much more of a science to it than many appreciate, but the fundamental thing that is needed first of all is a decent good quality engine build and it seems thats what was lacking here.
D4, take it all the way. Fucking crooks.
18-02-2011, 08:30 PM
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Fucking hell. I've only skipped over the last 2-3 pages of this thread, but my oh my.
So, my gut feelings all along were pretty much on the money. I'm not here to rub anything in, D4 I really feel for you.
Furthermore, my words are as follows to anyone wanting 300bhp from a 1600CVH. Take it or leave it.
Firstly, good luck arriving at a spec that will do 300bhp. There aren't parts on the shelf that will do it. Additionally, there are only a handful of tuners in the UK capable of doing it, regardless of how much money you line their pockets with. To pay someone to do it that hasn't got a clear vision of how to achieve it or the talent to actually get the results will probably end in tears. Expensive ones. I say that getting 300bhp from a 1600CVH is along the same lines as making a genuine 600bhp from a 2000cc YB.
Secondly, once you have arrived at a spec, don't think the hard work stops there. You'll have parts that you think will work but for unexplained reasons, just won't. It was this that made the final decision for my RST to come apart. That T38 was just wrong. How could it have been wrong? It was too big. FACT.
Thirdly, if you do manage it, that thing must run like a well-oiled machine. The problem I spotted with D4 was the weird graph trend. Aside from the graph being bollocks in my opinion, it had an 'unhappy' curve. A power curve that peaks hard and drops fast belongs to an engine that really isn't happy and it won't last. Simply seeing a power figure on a spurious run doesn't make it so. I hit almost 370bhp with mine. I ran 2.4 bar of boost to do it, believe me, I could have posted that graph and said it was what I had, but unless the car can actually run it, then it's not worth the paper it's printed on. It was much happier at 350bhp and MASSIVELY happier at 335-340bhp.
My GT30 was another example. It was a turbo that on paper should have done the numbers, but it didn't. It managed barely any more power than the GT28RS that went before it. OK, granted it was enough to break 170mph, but it obviously wasn't happy. My plan was to take it off after that event and sell it on. It was, in my opinion, too big. So would have suited an 1800-2000cc engine, but not my little 1600. However, I didn't get that chance because it shit itself and I still say that's because it was operating inefficiently.
There is much more of a science to it than many appreciate, but the fundamental thing that is needed first of all is a decent good quality engine build and it seems thats what was lacking here.
D4, take it all the way. Fucking crooks.
So, my gut feelings all along were pretty much on the money. I'm not here to rub anything in, D4 I really feel for you.
Furthermore, my words are as follows to anyone wanting 300bhp from a 1600CVH. Take it or leave it.
Firstly, good luck arriving at a spec that will do 300bhp. There aren't parts on the shelf that will do it. Additionally, there are only a handful of tuners in the UK capable of doing it, regardless of how much money you line their pockets with. To pay someone to do it that hasn't got a clear vision of how to achieve it or the talent to actually get the results will probably end in tears. Expensive ones. I say that getting 300bhp from a 1600CVH is along the same lines as making a genuine 600bhp from a 2000cc YB.
Secondly, once you have arrived at a spec, don't think the hard work stops there. You'll have parts that you think will work but for unexplained reasons, just won't. It was this that made the final decision for my RST to come apart. That T38 was just wrong. How could it have been wrong? It was too big. FACT.
Thirdly, if you do manage it, that thing must run like a well-oiled machine. The problem I spotted with D4 was the weird graph trend. Aside from the graph being bollocks in my opinion, it had an 'unhappy' curve. A power curve that peaks hard and drops fast belongs to an engine that really isn't happy and it won't last. Simply seeing a power figure on a spurious run doesn't make it so. I hit almost 370bhp with mine. I ran 2.4 bar of boost to do it, believe me, I could have posted that graph and said it was what I had, but unless the car can actually run it, then it's not worth the paper it's printed on. It was much happier at 350bhp and MASSIVELY happier at 335-340bhp.
My GT30 was another example. It was a turbo that on paper should have done the numbers, but it didn't. It managed barely any more power than the GT28RS that went before it. OK, granted it was enough to break 170mph, but it obviously wasn't happy. My plan was to take it off after that event and sell it on. It was, in my opinion, too big. So would have suited an 1800-2000cc engine, but not my little 1600. However, I didn't get that chance because it shit itself and I still say that's because it was operating inefficiently.
There is much more of a science to it than many appreciate, but the fundamental thing that is needed first of all is a decent good quality engine build and it seems thats what was lacking here.
D4, take it all the way. Fucking crooks.
sorry if its gone off topic.
18-02-2011, 09:16 PM
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Fucking hell. I've only skipped over the last 2-3 pages of this thread, but my oh my.
So, my gut feelings all along were pretty much on the money. I'm not here to rub anything in, D4 I really feel for you.
Furthermore, my words are as follows to anyone wanting 300bhp from a 1600CVH. Take it or leave it.
Firstly, good luck arriving at a spec that will do 300bhp. There aren't parts on the shelf that will do it. Additionally, there are only a handful of tuners in the UK capable of doing it, regardless of how much money you line their pockets with. To pay someone to do it that hasn't got a clear vision of how to achieve it or the talent to actually get the results will probably end in tears. Expensive ones. I say that getting 300bhp from a 1600CVH is along the same lines as making a genuine 600bhp from a 2000cc YB.
Secondly, once you have arrived at a spec, don't think the hard work stops there. You'll have parts that you think will work but for unexplained reasons, just won't. It was this that made the final decision for my RST to come apart. That T38 was just wrong. How could it have been wrong? It was too big. FACT.
Thirdly, if you do manage it, that thing must run like a well-oiled machine. The problem I spotted with D4 was the weird graph trend. Aside from the graph being bollocks in my opinion, it had an 'unhappy' curve. A power curve that peaks hard and drops fast belongs to an engine that really isn't happy and it won't last. Simply seeing a power figure on a spurious run doesn't make it so. I hit almost 370bhp with mine. I ran 2.4 bar of boost to do it, believe me, I could have posted that graph and said it was what I had, but unless the car can actually run it, then it's not worth the paper it's printed on. It was much happier at 350bhp and MASSIVELY happier at 335-340bhp.
My GT30 was another example. It was a turbo that on paper should have done the numbers, but it didn't. It managed barely any more power than the GT28RS that went before it. OK, granted it was enough to break 170mph, but it obviously wasn't happy. My plan was to take it off after that event and sell it on. It was, in my opinion, too big. So would have suited an 1800-2000cc engine, but not my little 1600. However, I didn't get that chance because it shit itself and I still say that's because it was operating inefficiently.
There is much more of a science to it than many appreciate, but the fundamental thing that is needed first of all is a decent good quality engine build and it seems thats what was lacking here.
D4, take it all the way. Fucking crooks.
So, my gut feelings all along were pretty much on the money. I'm not here to rub anything in, D4 I really feel for you.
Furthermore, my words are as follows to anyone wanting 300bhp from a 1600CVH. Take it or leave it.
Firstly, good luck arriving at a spec that will do 300bhp. There aren't parts on the shelf that will do it. Additionally, there are only a handful of tuners in the UK capable of doing it, regardless of how much money you line their pockets with. To pay someone to do it that hasn't got a clear vision of how to achieve it or the talent to actually get the results will probably end in tears. Expensive ones. I say that getting 300bhp from a 1600CVH is along the same lines as making a genuine 600bhp from a 2000cc YB.
Secondly, once you have arrived at a spec, don't think the hard work stops there. You'll have parts that you think will work but for unexplained reasons, just won't. It was this that made the final decision for my RST to come apart. That T38 was just wrong. How could it have been wrong? It was too big. FACT.
Thirdly, if you do manage it, that thing must run like a well-oiled machine. The problem I spotted with D4 was the weird graph trend. Aside from the graph being bollocks in my opinion, it had an 'unhappy' curve. A power curve that peaks hard and drops fast belongs to an engine that really isn't happy and it won't last. Simply seeing a power figure on a spurious run doesn't make it so. I hit almost 370bhp with mine. I ran 2.4 bar of boost to do it, believe me, I could have posted that graph and said it was what I had, but unless the car can actually run it, then it's not worth the paper it's printed on. It was much happier at 350bhp and MASSIVELY happier at 335-340bhp.
My GT30 was another example. It was a turbo that on paper should have done the numbers, but it didn't. It managed barely any more power than the GT28RS that went before it. OK, granted it was enough to break 170mph, but it obviously wasn't happy. My plan was to take it off after that event and sell it on. It was, in my opinion, too big. So would have suited an 1800-2000cc engine, but not my little 1600. However, I didn't get that chance because it shit itself and I still say that's because it was operating inefficiently.
There is much more of a science to it than many appreciate, but the fundamental thing that is needed first of all is a decent good quality engine build and it seems thats what was lacking here.
D4, take it all the way. Fucking crooks.
19-02-2011, 11:16 AM
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Fuck me them stories are horrid, i can sort of understand they could not get the 300 brake, but rebuilding a cvh properly aint fucking hard and they couldnt even get that right, shocking and i feel so sorry for you guys, get together and take it all the way!!
, get together and take it all the way!!
19-02-2011, 12:32 PM
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Just read through this thread and fook me its shocking how people can get away with it. Surely if D4, S1 john and Morph get together can present a solid case to the trading standards to get the bastards shut down and try and get some sort of compo.
I thought i had been fooked over by a local panel beater recently but compared to you boys ive had a lucky escape. got the car out of there before to much was bodged and damaged and only cost me the price of a few panels and rear quarter glass.
I thought i had been fooked over by a local panel beater recently but compared to you boys ive had a lucky escape. got the car out of there before to much was bodged and damaged and only cost me the price of a few panels and rear quarter glass.
19-02-2011, 12:44 PM
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looking forward to Luke's reply now! See what bullshit we all get to read now! Im sorry but pictures say it all, and its not like its just 1 person that has come forward regarding EP's workmanship!
And if im reading correctly on the other thread all those that are giving them good rep are all cossie owners, not RST owners so its just showing where his "talents" are!
And if im reading correctly on the other thread all those that are giving them good rep are all cossie owners, not RST owners so its just showing where his "talents" are!
noooo i want it
