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Old 10-06-2009 | 03:45 PM
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There really is sooo much to be gained from going EFI..... economy, drivability, reliability, response, power, I think it has to be done!
My budget is tight but with selling a few of my old MFI parts and some other shit I have laying around I should just be able to muster the funds for EFI running Megasquirt!

I've landed a EFI inlet manifold, throttle body, injector rail (with blues), FPR, ICV, TPS, and injector loom for £85, EFI to MFI head conversion plate for £36, and will probably be buying Megasquirt II MS2-Extra v3.57 from http://www.extraefi.co.uk/ms2_products.htm for £360 including loom, data cable, software etc... unless I can find the same cheaper else where! So all in around the £500 mark give or take a bit, will of course need some beiges, a trigger wheel, VR sensor, and a pipe to go from the fuel filter to the rail!

I'll be fitting it myself, and Garage19 has very kindly offered to help me with the mapping!

Hopefully all will be done within the next 4 weeks!

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Might have an EFi throttle body knocking about if you need it bud?
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
There really is sooo much to be gained from going EFI..... economy, drivability, reliability, response, power, I think it has to be done!
My budget is tight but with selling a few of my old MFI parts and some other shit I have laying around I should just be able to muster the funds for EFI running Megasquirt!

I've landed a EFI inlet manifold, injector rail (with blues), FPR, ICV, TPS, and injector loom for £85, EFI to MFI head conversion plate for £36, and will probably be buying Megasquirt II MS2-Extra v3.57 from http://www.extraefi.co.uk/ms2_products.htm for £360 including loom, data cable, software etc... unless I can find the same cheaper else where!

I'll be fitting it myself, and Garage19 has very kindly offered to help me with the mapping!

Hopefully all will be done within the next 4 weeks!
mate you are 1 step nearer to reaching perfection once you bin that shite mfi!
can't believe there are people still thinking that mfi is good! once you start having issues its a f'ing nightmare!
Pm me i can get you a better setup all fitted, supplied and mapped not much more than what it will cost you. plus run a closed lopp lambda setup aswell as it will fuel like a modern day car.
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Might have an EFi throttle body knocking about if you need it bud?
Oh forgot to mention I had that too! Cheers though!
Old 10-06-2009 | 03:55 PM
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ive got 308cc injectors here too,, as the blues are good for a small monkey bike, also why go megasquirt? will you not only be running around a bar with your bottom end ? if so will efi ofab not do you fine? save bit cash? not asking just because i have full convertion for sale honest lol,
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Originally Posted by B1G_RST
ive got 308cc injectors here too,, as the blues are good for a small monkey bike, also why go megasquirt? will you not only be running around a bar with your bottom end ? if so will efi ofab not do you fine? save bit cash? not asking just because i have full convertion for sale honest lol,
Are 308cc's Beige's? If so how much do you want for them? I'm not up on EFI injector sizes
MS for my budget, and it can be live mapped where as OFAB/OFAC is limited to what chip you can buy off the shelf so to speak, also I'm really keen to learn basic mapping myself!!
My bottom end is good for 220bhp to 250bhp like all stock RS bottom ends, what boost i'll be running is a result of my engines VE and target BHP so I dont know yet!
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i have an efi flywheel if you want that. it owes me £12 plus postage if your interested.
you already have the rest of the efi stuff i have - but if you havent i've got an inlet, fuel rail, throttle body and flywheel i would sell you for £60 plus postage. i really need some cash.

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So you finally gave into the temptation eh?!

Again, we all know ya gonna get it done properly mate, so good luck with it - and finally reaching a goal with your RS
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So you finally gave into the temptation eh?!

Again, we all know ya gonna get it done properly mate, so good luck with it - and finally reaching a goal with your RS
lol I hope so Marts!
Old 10-06-2009 | 04:13 PM
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there bigger than beiges,

701s =226CC @ 3BAR 15.8 OHMS

IW-031 =275CC @ 3BAR 16.9 OHMS

785 =308cc @ 3BAR 14.2 OHMS

£100 deliverd

i always thot you neede rods/pistons over a bar,, ?
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Karlos m8 - start a rebuild thread on what you gonna do with step by step instructions as really interested in going down this route too especially if i can do it at same costs as yourself!
Good luck m8!
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why not go for standard cossie injectors there cheaper
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Originally Posted by grsford
why not go for standard cossie injectors there cheaper
cant fit them if using ofab/ofac not sure about ms
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VXR injectors are 475cc or so and only about 70 quid a set new.
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Originally Posted by Chip
VXR injectors are 475cc or so and only about 70 quid a set new.
they fit on ofab fuel rail and injector loom ? might use them when i get mines on gotech
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Originally Posted by Chip
VXR injectors are 475cc or so and only about 70 quid a set new.
Really?? As above will they fit in a Fiesta EFI Rail/manifold?
In fact... what injectors will fit? Cossie as GRS said? What else? Bang for Buck is priority here!

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Same fitment as cossie ones.


RST IN PROGRESS has them on his
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I cant express how much you will enjoy EFI, More reliable, Power delivery better just feels a modern car.
MFi is horrible especially when things start going wrong.
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seeing as people are trying to sell you bits i have a megasquirt ecu for sale too.
£250 posted
No loom with it tho, unless you want to stick it on a zetec lol
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Really?? As above will they fit in a Fiesta EFI Rail/manifold?
In fact... what injectors will fit? Cossie as GRS said? What else? Bang for Buck is priority here!
yes they fit fine and good for over 350hp.
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Originally Posted by notroubleclubber
Karlos m8 - start a rebuild thread on what you gonna do with step by step instructions as really interested in going down this route too especially if i can do it at same costs as yourself!
Good luck m8!
Should only be a day's work for me mate hardly worth a thread but i'll take some pics as i do it for you!

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Same fitment as cossie ones.


RST IN PROGRESS has them on his
Sweet!

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I cant express how much you will enjoy EFI, More reliable, Power delivery better just feels a modern car.
MFi is horrible especially when things start going wrong.
Cheers!
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seeing as people are trying to sell you bits i have a megasquirt ecu for sale too.
£250 posted
No loom with it tho, unless you want to stick it on a zetec lol
LOL What version? As i'm paying out I only really want the latest one v3.57 or v3.0

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yes they fit fine and good for over 350hp.
Excellent! Cheers!
Old 10-06-2009 | 04:47 PM
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ive got a fully rebuilt efi head with inlet if any is intrested getting hard to find now
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sweet, ive got the V3 new ECU, cant wait to fit it, doug(garage19) knows his shit with megasquirt
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I've megasquirted my Pinto with GXSR throttle bodies and mapped it myself.

It's an awesome experience if a little frustrating at times. I;m sure you'll enjoy the experience immesnely.

Give me a shout if I can be of any assiastance (pm me, I have a habit of losing topics I've replied to!).
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Originally Posted by rsi cabbie
ive got a fully rebuilt efi head with inlet if any is intrested getting hard to find now
Thanks mate but got a nice shiny new NMS head here already!

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sweet, ive got the V3 new ECU, cant wait to fit it, doug(garage19) knows his shit with megasquirt
Yeah Jonnie was saying! You got it for a good price too didnt ya?

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I've megasquirted my Pinto with GXSR throttle bodies and mapped it myself.

It's an awesome experience if a little frustrating at times. I;m sure you'll enjoy the experience immesnely.

Give me a shout if I can be of any assiastance (pm me, I have a habit of losing topics I've replied to!).
Thanks very much mate!
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Flywheel:
Get the flywheel and forget abou thte trigger wheels. You'll be happy in the end. It really is one of the only "fit and forget" options. Zero possiblity for things to go wrong or need tuning.

Injectors:
Don't over size to your needs or just get the first ones you get hold of. 475cc/min is quite a lot for a 1.6cc engine unless you go over 300bhp. Cossie's 311cc/min is on the low side plus usually 15 years olds.
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yeah basicly free as i was fooked about so much, but he came good in the end
let me know when u go see doug, i need to drop some bits off to him so be a good excuse,lol
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Flywheel:
Get the flywheel and forget abou thte trigger wheels. You'll be happy in the end. It really is one of the only "fit and forget" options. Zero possiblity for things to go wrong or need tuning.

Injectors:
Don't over size to your needs or just get the first ones you get hold of. 475cc/min is quite a lot for a 1.6cc engine unless you go over 300bhp. Cossie's 311cc/min is on the low side plus usually 15 years olds.
Yeah but pain in the arse to fit! Gearbox out and then a air gun to crack the bolts off!
So 311cc to small, 475cc to big, what do you recommend? Surely if I use 475cc the injector duty will just be quite small, is that a problem? In fact how can cossie ones be too small?? They run on a 2.0L producing what... 220bhp out the factory?

Originally Posted by orion_crazy_carl
yeah basicly free as i was fooked about so much, but he came good in the end
let me know when u go see doug, i need to drop some bits off to him so be a good excuse,lol
Bonus!!!
I've got to give Doug a bell and pop up to see him one saturday, so he can go through a few things with me so i'll let you know mate!

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sweet!i got a bottom cover as well if u need one!
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Bought one last night! Cheers though Carl
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iv been looking into efi and have been getting results of about a grand just for bits!!!
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It's not all bright on the other side, I jus converted to EFI and cant get a spark for love nor money
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iv been looking at gotech is megasquirt the same thing just another make??
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Originally Posted by Chip
Same fitment as cossie ones.


RST IN PROGRESS has them on his
I have also used them on two ZTs.
Old 10-06-2009 | 07:27 PM
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Astra VXR injectors Doug? Not Corsa, or Vectra?


Originally Posted by mike s2 rst
iv been looking into efi and have been getting results of about a grand just for bits!!!
Then your not looking in the right places my friend!

Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
It's not all bright on the other side, I jus converted to EFI and cant get a spark for love nor money
lol There is always something!

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Yeah, Astra vxr. Try Chris Astley Motorsport. Its where i have got them from in the past.
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If you convert yours and have it started and running in one day Karlos, you can do mine the next day

I might go down this route one day, but knowing my funds and luck of late, that day will be a long way away!

Get the pics as a step by step innit... That'd help loads of people out
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dont no if you are intrested but ive got a sierra 1.8 cvh bottom pully alt and the bracket? (its got a trigger wheel built in)
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Will be interesting to see what results it produces


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