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Old 15-01-2008, 06:46 PM
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What power can these take when using gotech management?
Old 15-01-2008, 06:49 PM
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hiya mate, do you mean what can a turbo converted st 170 engine take ????

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yes mate. i have read that you can get a lot of power from a stock engine.
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will the engine be properly converted for turbo use ie lower compression and thats it or will it be full blown ie steel rods, forged pistons etc. i know alot of people use the st 170 heads for their zetec turbo engines.

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i thought about just lowering comp. its either go zvh or full blown st170.
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i gather by mentioning that engine youve either got one already or you can get one at a good price ????.

i suppose for a really cheap way of doing it might be a de compression plate but its not ideal if your wanting big power, if you have the funds then a proper engine rebuild is best for most power but with the added reliability to go with it, i dont think your management ( gotech ) will be a factor in the end power figure, itll def be down to your engine spec which will determine that.

if the st 170 engine is pretty much the same engine as a normal zetec then you would get a good figure, even if standard just low comp, but honestly mate proper build is the way to go if ya can.

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The ST170 engine is a standard Zetec block with forged pistons and forged rods as standard. Perfect for a turbo just drop the compression a bit.

It will make the same power on any management system!

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cheers dave. i have a 1.8 zetec block in my garage but i can get a st170 locally. i have mfi gotech so i was going to run the rs head on my zetecbut then i read about turboing a st170. the st170 route will be expensive as i would have to change management to run the st170 head. i think i will go down the zetec route.
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i have just read that th st170 has steel rods and forged pistons as std.
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yep forged steel rods, but aluminium cast pistons ??? , suppose it all depends now how far you wanna go ie the bhp etc youd like to see. dunno what boost youd be able to put through the engine if all youve done is lower the compression a touch though. but the engine is def a good engine.

one thing you may wanna check is if the standard gotech mfi could run such an engine though. if not take that cost into account when deciding bud.

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any body know what bhp and boost on a standard st engine with lowered comp ?
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Originally Posted by SWITCHBLADE
yep forged steel rods, but aluminium cast pistons ??? , suppose it all depends now how far you wanna go ie the bhp etc youd like to see. dunno what boost youd be able to put through the engine if all youve done is lower the compression a touch though. but the engine is def a good engine.

one thing you may wanna check is if the standard gotech mfi could run such an engine though. if not take that cost into account when deciding bud.

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gotech mfi pro can run the variable valve system on the st170 ive already looked into it
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Originally Posted by juffer
any body know what bhp and boost on a standard st engine with lowered comp ?
no more than 1bar of boost if it were my engine
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Originally Posted by SWITCHBLADE
yep forged steel rods, but aluminium cast pistons ??? , suppose it all depends now how far you wanna go ie the bhp etc youd like to see. dunno what boost youd be able to put through the engine if all youve done is lower the compression a touch though. but the engine is def a good engine.

one thing you may wanna check is if the standard gotech mfi could run such an engine though. if not take that cost into account when deciding bud.

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No they are forged pistons. Got 2 set in my workshop.

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lol was only quoting what i read on the st 170 website, but further down the page it says forged ???? weird.
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Originally Posted by SWITCHBLADE
lol was only quoting what i read on the st 170 website, but further down the page it says forged ???? weird.
I know what you mean! it depends what you read and where you read it??
The ST engine also has longer con rods to improve the rod ratio but you wont find that in any write up!

I am doing a ZVH for a customer at the moment using a standard bottom end off a ST170.

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how much longer are the st170 rods can you use calibra turbo pistons on them ?

is the crank the same as the normal 2.0 zetec ??
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Originally Posted by mitchrst
how much longer are the st170 rods can you use calibra turbo pistons on them ?

is the crank the same as the normal 2.0 zetec ??
Dont know about the calibre turbo piston?

The crank is the same in all. RS, ST, 2.0
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Hi there lads couldn't help but read the thread about the st170, is the st170 rods the same size as a 2.0 blacktop zetec???
Old 21-09-2009, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cutchee
Hi there lads couldn't help but read the thread about the st170, is the st170 rods the same size as a 2.0 blacktop zetec???
Longer rods, as above...
Old 21-09-2009, 08:07 PM
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The rods are totally different, and they only fit the ST170 pistons, which again are unique. Stronger than normal black top.
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ive heard you can run 1 bar of boost 300hp on stock internals
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yea, that shouldn't be a problem.
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Originally Posted by Rick
yea, that shouldn't be a problem.
if you can get the comp down and keep the thermals under control.
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What kind of c/r do they need to be dropped to?
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Originally Posted by GTi_Tom
What kind of c/r do they need to be dropped to?
depends on your boost leverls etc tbh
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do the ST pistons have enough material on the crown to allow machining???
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interesting read this, my bro has a 170 and wants more power and a turbo conversion is obviously the best route. what would be the best turbo to use etc
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im in the middle of trying to do a st170 conversion useing a t3 turbo and get a manifold made do i need to change the pistons im getting mixed answears can any one help
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it all depends on what boost/power your after
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Phone simon at sitech mate he has just finished a zvh with st bottom end. good man
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I'm not after massive power i have a full rs replica and want abut more go i'n it it's already got high lifted cams bluefin map kn and exhaust can u recommend any other was to get more power I'm new to here thanks nathan
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