PeterD

Evening mk4 door lovers

Yesterday i spent a good few hours polishing my s1 after some minging brown shit stuck to the paint that looked like spots of rust had come through, so after 5 hours of this when i finished i went to lock the car and when i plipped the alarm the doors wouldnt lock, no noise from the mechanisms at all and every other aspect of the alarms locking proceedure is fine but it just wont lock and i can still pull my doors open from the outside which if you wanted to nick something you could just jump in.

has anyone had this before or any of you leccy guys have a usual suspects cause of faults?

im using concept 650i if that helps at all but any ideas i can play will help.

As always many thanks

Pete

haz87

Checked the basics... the fuse?

PeterD

not yet, i went in the huff with her after all the graft yesterday

SafeChav

Probably going to be related to the solenoid installed in the drivers door realistically.

I presume the locking still works fine off the key?

PeterD

aye it still works fine chav, ill do the fuse then ill check the door motors themselves.

hows the cabby by the way?

SafeChav

It wont be the fuse if the central locking operates off the key.

THe alarm will probably have its own fuse tucked away somewhere really annoying to get to though.

Still on the drive, growing things from every available orifice. Ive not touched it

PeterD

cant say its not good for the environment then mate, apply for a tax rebate

ill just go and check the car right now..............

PeterD

right just checked and no the central locking wont lock or unlock both doors off the key, i dont suppose there is somekind of over ride on the alarm i might have triggered that would stop it working the doors at all?

SafeChav

If the central locking wont operate off the key either then it probably is the fuse.

Make your mind up woman

PeterD

shut it you slag!

ive just checked the fuses and their all fine

i did push down the passanger side lock button when i was fannying about yesterday when it wasnt running and it worked before that

SafeChav

Just to convince me i want you to replace the central locking fuse with another 30A one

PeterD

ok ill go do that just now.......

PeterD

right, ive just swapped the 30 amp fuses from the locks and the windows over and no difference on the locks and the windows still worked and of course visually the fuses are fine, also i revved it to trip the anti hijack and it still locks the boot but not the doors, i think though that there is a slight noise coming from the doors when it should lock but its hard to tell.

any ideas mate?

SafeChav

Hmmmm, the way it works is theres a switch in the drivers door which triggers the central locking relay.

If it was the solendoid that was installed in the drivers door playing up, the boot wouldnt lock either. So the fact that its triggering must mean the switch in the door is being operated........but then the pin on the drivers door should go down.

fuck knows

PeterD

chav its a mk4 door and theres no pin there

cant believe it though it worked fine yesterday before i washed the car

SafeChav

Its your own fault for being a wana be then

MK4 doors still allow you to have the pins, and it will be purely coincidence the passenger door only has a solenoid in it.

That said, just thought, has it still got mk3 central locking in it?

PeterD

Aye im pretty sure it does chav, i actually got new pins from ford i just need to fit the drivers one.

something else to strip and play with next weekend then

SafeChav

I really cant get my head around this, might be something shit like a broken wire but it doesnt make sense.

It'd help if u whipped the door card off and had a peek to see what state the drivers door is like inside.

PeterD

ive had that off before and its in decent nickbut im running out of light now so i cant go out and pull it apart, im gonna go and cover it back up now and ill see if its cured itslef just like it fooked itself.......

you never know

SafeChav

Is there a big dirty solenoid cobbled in somewhere?

Interesting theory lol

PeterD

just been fannying about with it, theres still a clicking from the doors so somethings doing something also there wa bits of movement on the passangers door pin so im just reading my haynes book just now

dunno, if its a solenoid stuck can i just wd40 it or something like that?

pc use now limited cos the mrs is on it so ill be back sooner or later

vroooom ptssssh

Ure missus got msn Pete?


Maybe the alarm solenoid has slipped off the pin that operates the lock on the drivers door? you know theyre usually screwed on so when the alarm solenoid operates to lock the doors it moves the door pin down locking it/triggering the relay to lock boot and pass door.....if that makes sense?

SafeChav

If it had slipped off though it wouldnt be operating the switch...........so why is the boot locking?

Fuckin wierd problem this one

vroooom ptssssh

This is true!

PeterD

you two wont believe this btw....


ITS STARTED WORKING AGAIN

Just in time for the MOT tomorrow

SafeChav

Not surprisingly i do believe it

Is it a clifford alarm by any chance

vroooom ptssssh

Typical S1 Glad its working now pete, does that mean I dont get ure missus msn addy then?

PeterD

The locks seem to be tempramental the now and the car is having track rod problems and my 5th injectors leaking so no high boost for me for the time being lol

and

the disks are fooked

do any of you know if these will deffo fit my escort?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-CAPRI-ESC...QQcmdZViewItem

chav it is a clifford by the way and dave if it ever makes another west meet sam will prob be with me lol

the word sell seriously popped into my head today

SafeChav

The perils of buying a second hand 20 year old car i guess! All of the ones ive ever had have had loads of niggly things wrong with them but i take pride in putting them right and having faith in my own work

Discs you can't really grumble about - consumable item.

The alarm - what can i say its always the cars with cliffords that have issues

Can you not get track rod ends from your local motor factors, eBay isn't always the cheapest/easiest option.

PeterD

aye track rods are quite common still so im on the hunt, im taking a break from it for a few days just now though then ill pile back into it.

ill love it again shortly lol

SafeChav

So am i right in saying its failed 2 MOT's now?

Was the retest at the same garage?

vroooom ptssssh

Dont you jus love em

I need 2 track rod ends, steerinb bushes and I think couplings too

SaqsS2turbo

cliffords noramally use relays for controlling the door locking usually 2 one for locking and one for unlocking take a peep under the dash locate the unit and the relays which wil either next to the control box or taped up some were change them just to be on the safe side probs faulty if they started working again its the same relay thats used for the horn the blue one under the dash