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is a MK4 XR3i Cabrio Standard Rear Suspension the same as S2's Standard Rear Suspension?

just a question ive been asked as im breaking a cabby and i want to be 110%

cheeRS peeps

Rob

Alex_86

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it´s the same

all mk4

Diamonds.

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thank you

Micky

It may not be the same as I doubt the cabby has a anti roll bar????Regards,Micky

ivorbiggun

It doesn't

SafeChav

I was under the impression RS springs are slightly lower

MK4 cabby's dont have rear ARB's im sure, a S2 does!

Diamonds.

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ooh bugger

SafeChav

Why whats up?

And are u breaking a Mk3 or Mk4

Diamonds.

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mk4 dude just a fella asked on here but i dont want to sell him bits that dont fit his turbo.

addiction

springs will be different height

Diamonds.

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thanks guys that clears that up for me

SafeChav

Fancy donating me a passenger door

Alex_86

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The dampers and the springs are the same!
The springs will be in the same size/hight

I know, I have one

And as i could understand the question was not about rear anti roll bar
the cabby is stiff any way, because the lack of hard roof
it is stiffen up behind with the blue metal plate that is right behind the rear back seats

suspensions was going to this car:


ended up on this one:


the S2 and the xr3i is lower than the other mk4´s.

don´t remember how much lower


and the dampers and springs are all the same on MK4

one example is:

Burtonpower is selling a koni kit
Part No: KOSSK1
Description: KONI KIT MK3/4 ESCORT '83-90
Other Info: BASE MODELS -40mm/XR3i/TURBO -20mm

SafeChav

An ARB is part of suspension!

And as i and Addiction have said, im sure by the spec an S2 is lower than a 3i

Alex_86

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nope, xr3i and the S2 is the same hight

and when you change suspension you change the arb?

smitsturbo

im pretty sure the s2 is lower than xr3i's i think 20mm

Alex_86

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haha, talking to u English men is difficult

Description: KONI KIT MK3/4 ESCORT '83-90
Other Info: BASE MODELS -40mm/XR3i/TURBO -20mm

SafeChav

The cabby suspension arms wont have the ARB mounts for one.

Just admit you're wrong be a whole lot easier

Alex_86

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the cabby suspension arms wont have the ARB mounts for one.

u change them to when u change dampers and springs?

I haven't said that the cabby have rear ARB I know it does not have on, I have a cabby, remember

SafeChav

how can you change them? The mounts are welded onto the wishbones!

And an ANTI ROLL BAR is part of the rear suspension, S2's have them, cabby's don't, you are wrong

end of story

thankyou please

Alex_86

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what are you talking about?

I am talking about dampers and springs
They are not welded on!!!

They are the same

mister:
end of story
thank you please

SafeChav

dampers and springs are part of suspension, as are wishbones ARB's tie bars and so on.

Diamonds, what were you going to sell to the chap?

Diamonds.

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all he asked for was the rear suspension. As far as i know it was to make a rolling shell

Micky

Since when is the shocks and springs the only parts of suspension???Diamonds asked about suspension in his origional question,not shocks/springs!!!!Micky

Alex_86

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Dont think you have much of a clue your self mate!
Its a koni kit, as an example. there the springs: if you put in on the basic models it will lower it 40mm, if you put it on a xr3i and a S2 it lower it 20mm.. and whys does it lowers the xr3i and S2 the same?
Could it possible be because its the same hight?
So if you read it all and think a little you could see that the post have
got a little OT to the hight between xr3i and S2


so read then post!!!! Alex

and about the suspension , did think it was about the dampers and springs and not about the hole system

tulling

SafeChav

ooooo what a bitchy thread this is turning into

Diamonds as far as it goes, im 99.9% sure the S2 springs sit the car lower compared to 3i springs.

The rear wishbones won't have the rear ARB mounts, and obvio the car doesn't have the ARB either.

Shocks im pretty sure are the same.

Alex_86, you'll find manufacturers around that make spring kits and list the differences in heigh it makes between a S2 and a 3i

Alex_86

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hehe lol

SafeChav: I know you could find it in diffrent hights to the xr3i and the S2 the cabby dont have the ARb at all thats right

if I got some time, i will stop at Ford after work tomorrow and ask

SafeChav

No what i mean, is a set of lowering springs, you fit them to a 3i, and it will make the car a lower overall drop than if fitted to an S2. Its the ride height figure thats relevant.

We need some original Ford sales brochures to look at the official ride height figures.

And you think the muppets at ford are going to know that! Wishful thinking if ever i heard it

Diamonds.

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sorry peeps didnt mean to turn this into fight

SafeChav

Damn striaght

This ain't the muppet room you know

Alex_86

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hehe, they know allot at ford here, so i gone ask anyway, afraid of the answer
dont fight, just talking

sorry if any one think i was rood to them

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addiction

I done some research and it turns out that Alex is right on the xr3i and s2 being the same height. the mk3's were different though.

the mk4 xr3i and Rs turbo had the same ride height of 1349mm compared to the other models at 1369 mm.
the mk3 xr3i was 1380mm and the Rs turbo was 1349 mm and all other models 1380mm

SafeChav

WANKER

Well im a Mk3 man so that is my defence, however poor it may be

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SafeChav

Diamonds, so as i was saying, you can sell him the shocks and springs

Diamonds.

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he's gone somewhere else now

SafeChav

FUCK

You didn't say whether you fancied donating a door to me either

Diamonds.

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ill pm ya a pic of it 2morro for you if you want dude? it does have a dent in it though golf ball size

Alex_86

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