took my dump valve off
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I'm hearing a lot of people say that they run better without dump valves, but what about all that pressure building up back to the turbo then?
I'm running about 16psi and would like to see how she runs without the D/V but dont want to batter my turbo!
I'm running about 16psi and would like to see how she runs without the D/V but dont want to batter my turbo!
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Why do cosworths run a DV from standard then even though they are running standard boost. To me it makes sense to use one wether its a recirculating one so you don't get the noise or a normal one.
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i have a dumpvalve on mine (plz dont hurt me) and am going to be fitting a front mount intercooler and stg 2 hybrid turbo, what difference will i notice without a dumpvalve compared to with a dump valve???? this is a serious question plz no silly answers lol
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You won't notice any difference but in my opinion your turbo will last longer as you are avoiding turbo stall (chatter) therefore taking some of the strain off the internal components of the turbo which can only be a good thing.
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When I first did the rst conversion on my cabbie mine used to chatter like mad with MFi with the boost only set at 10psi. It seems to vary from car to car. With MFi the flap on the metering head closes as soon as you take your foot off the throttle so chatter can't be heard. Chatter is turbo stall which can't be good for a turbo long term (in my opinion anyway).
#15
Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
Why do cosworths run a DV from standard then even though they are running standard boost. To me it makes sense to use one wether its a recirculating one so you don't get the noise or a normal one.
The MAF sensor senses air flow, but not in which direction it flows. Same story with all forced induction cars with MAF sensors
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Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
Cool didn't know that. You seem to know alot about all the different systems out there.
I tend to ask a lot of questions and remember a lot
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david mate I have told you what Safechav has everytime the dumpvalve debate comes up and now you start listening when somebody else tells you for the X'th time
Incidentally it's only the small turbo Escort Cosworth that runs the MAF.
Incidentally it's only the small turbo Escort Cosworth that runs the MAF.
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I didn't know then the sierra ran a dump valve/recirculation valve as standard as I am only just learning about them. Obviously they put it on there for a reason but I didn't know why. May aswell learn something while I'm on here. Surely avoiding turbo stall can only be a good thing.
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Incidentally it's only the small turbo Escort Cosworth that runs the MAF.
Ill ask David
And btw i knew that about the small turbo Escos's HONEST
#27
Originally Posted by SafeChav
Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
Why do cosworths run a DV from standard then even though they are running standard boost. To me it makes sense to use one wether its a recirculating one so you don't get the noise or a normal one.
The MAF sensor senses air flow, but not in which direction it flows. Same story with all forced induction cars with MAF sensors
Only the T25 Escort cosworth using fords EEC-IV management system has a MAF sensor, no other cosworth does...hence why it will run with no boost hoses connected.
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Urgh, Oranoco beat me to it
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Originally Posted by SafeChav
Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
Why do cosworths run a DV from standard then even though they are running standard boost. To me it makes sense to use one wether its a recirculating one so you don't get the noise or a normal one.
The MAF sensor senses air flow, but not in which direction it flows. Same story with all forced induction cars with MAF sensors
Only the T25 Escort cosworth using fords EEC-IV management system has a MAF sensor, no other cosworth does...hence why it will run with no boost hoses connected.
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Urgh, Oranoco beat me to it
Do the large turbo Escos's have the re-circulating DV?
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Yes cossies do run map sensors. all siera/sapph cossies std run a 2bar map sensor, large turbo escos runs a 2.5bar map sensor std
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Alex_86, You started off well in English..then it went to pot and you lost every single one of us
Hes as english as you are
#37
Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
You won't notice any difference but in my opinion your turbo will last longer as you are avoiding turbo stall (chatter) therefore taking some of the strain off the internal components of the turbo which can only be a good thing.
There's a thread on this just about every week and I'm pretty sure it's widely perceived that unless you are running big power and big boost then you do not need a d/v fitted and will still have a mechanically-sound turbo with no problems.
I used to have one on my S2 and it ran with no problems at all. I removed it when I sold it..and again it ran exactly the same with no problems.
My S1 runs without one and has slightly more power and chatters a bit top end of boost. The S2 never. Both ran same MFI. some cars do, some don't.
SafeChav Remove the sig smiles and get the quotes onto one line each and you will have some more room for your personal abuse, ya tosser
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Originally Posted by [b
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He's more annoying than one of those tickly coughs that wont go away
He's more annoying than one of those tickly coughs that wont go away
Originally Posted by [b
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like a smelly fart, can never get rid of it..
like a smelly fart, can never get rid of it..
Originally Posted by [b
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UR A FUCKING PRICK THAT CANT BLEED FUCKING BRAKES
UR A FUCKING PRICK THAT CANT BLEED FUCKING BRAKES
Originally Posted by Oranoco
You're such a
#39
Took mine off the cossie and it lasted 2 days before the turbo shat itself, was only a T3 and stage 3 chip, not sure if it was just coincidence or not. I'd still do it again tho.
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Originally Posted by [b
NUTS RuS[/b]]
He's more annoying than one of those tickly coughs that wont go away
He's more annoying than one of those tickly coughs that wont go away
Originally Posted by [b
davsmith64[/b]]
like a smelly fart, can never get rid of it..
like a smelly fart, can never get rid of it..
Originally Posted by Oranoco
You're such a
Originally Posted by [b
s2 300bhp[/b]]
UR A FUCKING PRICK THAT CANT BLEED FUCKING BRAKES
UR A FUCKING PRICK THAT CANT BLEED FUCKING BRAKES
Plus the top 2 were only joking, s2 300bhp was just a prick lol (ive moved oranoco's to the jokey section )