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im just away 2 go down the route of the 300 - 350bhp but im not sure witch engine to go for so far ive baught a cts stage 2 gearbox but i cant make my mind up what to bolt on the side of it either=
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any pics & specs is most welcome cheers
its a series 1 by the way
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zetec is easy to get 300, not as dear as a cvh...


But id prefer a cvh anyday
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im just away 2 go down the route of the 300 - 350bhp but im not sure witch engine to go for so far ive baught a cts stage 2 gearbox but i cant make my mind up what to bolt on the side of it either=
1900 cvh,
2.1 zvh,
2.1 zetec
any pics & specs is most welcome cheers
its a series 1 by the way
well first bit of advice if you are going down the zvh or zetec route give the gearbox back and upgrade it to a stage two plus
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i cant give it back as i baught it off of my mate for Ł600 cos he crashed his car its only done 5000 miles. ive seen plenty of 300bhp rs turbo's with stage two boxes
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how much money you want to spend?
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Depends on your funds i guess, personally i have alot more respect for someone that sticks with the 1600cvh choice is yours i guess
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Originally Posted by smitsturbo
ive seen plenty of 300bhp rs turbo's with stage two boxes

Well I broke mine, and I am not alone.

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sory to jack the post here but im after some info

to build a 230-250 bhp rsturbo how much are u talking ???and whats needed ?? or if your building say 250bhp do u just go for 300bhp as the same parts are used??
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Zetec turbo every time..
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no see a zetec turbo doesnt really apeal to me cos really all u want is 300bhp i mean how much more power do u honestly want ...if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

plus how much is a zetec turbo conversion?
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Originally Posted by iamrab
if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

Thanks mate, but that is Christian and Beccy's car that did that. I only did 161 ...


But I didn't cheap, I kept my mirrors and wipers on ad didn't tape up the gaps like *someone* did
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Originally Posted by iamrab
no see a zetec turbo doesnt really apeal to me cos really all u want is 300bhp i mean how much more power do u honestly want ...if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

plus how much is a zetec turbo conversion?
If all you want is peak power, then fine go with the small engine.. however, if what you want is a good spread of torque (the thing that makes you go fast ultimately), then you need to look at a decent engine..
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Tony, that 163 in your avatar, is that an unofficial figure then?
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if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

Thanks mate, but that is Christian and Beccy's car that did that. I only did 161 ...


But I didn't cheap, I kept my mirrors and wipers on ad didn't tape up the gaps like *someone* did
Tony, you're such a CUNT. I removed my mirrors for the 168mph. I didn't tape any joins for that one. You want a rematch with full trim then??!!
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if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

Thanks mate, but that is Christian and Beccy's car that did that. I only did 161 ...


But I didn't cheap, I kept my mirrors and wipers on ad didn't tape up the gaps like *someone* did
i know mate i got the two cars mixed up im a ballon head lol

but yes still love your motor ..soo much soo that i missed the issue with your car in it and im gonna get a back issue ...im soo sad lol but its such a well build car with some of the best touches not just the engine
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Tony, that 163 in your avatar, is that an unofficial figure then?
That's the reading from Tony's 'Slack' dash.

At 168.8mph, what did my Blitz speedo read? You guessed it!! 168mph!!
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no see a zetec turbo doesnt really apeal to me cos really all u want is 300bhp i mean how much more power do u honestly want ...if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

plus how much is a zetec turbo conversion?
If all you want is peak power, then fine go with the small engine.. however, if what you want is a good spread of torque (the thing that makes you go fast ultimately), then you need to look at a decent engine..

but matey your sorta no prove to back up you claims i mean the two fastest cars in the country both have 1.6 so wouldnt u agree that the 1.6 tuned is a better option ?
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It just seems that CVH's like top speed more. Until you get into Sunny/Paul J territory! I wouldn't spend that much on an Escort/Fiesta!! LOL.
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2mph difference is pretty impressive at that speed, even yours was 0.8 mph out lol

either way, you can't beat the sound of a CVH
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christan sorry bit off post here but have u any other videos of your car aprt from the one racing the evo?? or tonys car ?
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no see a zetec turbo doesnt really apeal to me cos really all u want is 300bhp i mean how much more power do u honestly want ...if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

plus how much is a zetec turbo conversion?
If all you want is peak power, then fine go with the small engine.. however, if what you want is a good spread of torque (the thing that makes you go fast ultimately), then you need to look at a decent engine..

but matey your sorta no prove to back up you claims i mean the two fastest cars in the country both have 1.6 so wouldnt u agree that the 1.6 tuned is a better option ?
I guess if all you want is top speed, then sure go with the small engine.
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Originally Posted by dave_y
2mph difference is pretty impressive at that speed, even yours was 0.8 mph out lol

either way, you can't beat the sound of a CVH


Mine still gets its signal from the gearbox. So, its doing OK!!

It's no use in 1st to 3rd gears though!! LOL.
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christan sorry bit off post here but have u any other videos of your car aprt from the one racing the evo?? or tonys car ?
Look on www.ap-tuning.co.uk

Look in the Media section. There is one of it on the Dyno at Powers. I have others, but none hosted yet. Will look now......

There is one good one, but I can't put that up!!!
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no see a zetec turbo doesnt really apeal to me cos really all u want is 300bhp i mean how much more power do u honestly want ...if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

plus how much is a zetec turbo conversion?
If all you want is peak power, then fine go with the small engine.. however, if what you want is a good spread of torque (the thing that makes you go fast ultimately), then you need to look at a decent engine..

but matey your sorta no prove to back up you claims i mean the two fastest cars in the country both have 1.6 so wouldnt u agree that the 1.6 tuned is a better option ?
I guess if all you want is top speed, then sure go with the small engine.
so are u saying that a 300bhp zetec conversion would beat a 1.6 cvh with 300bhp?
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Originally Posted by iamrab
so are u saying that a 300bhp zetec conversion would beat a 1.6 cvh with 300bhp?
Give me a scenario.. you can't be that black and white..

both cars at 2000rpm in 5th, sure, the zetec will destroy it..
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I'd be sticking with the 1.6 if i was doing it
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There are 2 reasons I have stayed CVH. They are important reasons for me.....

1. The CVH is the PROPER engine for the car
2. The CVH is the one that suits my style of driving

Thats it.
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hmm intresting ..

what about 3rd gear 40 mph and both floor it same time ?
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hmm intresting ..

what about 3rd gear 40 mph and both floor it same time ?
I don't know, but 3rd gear 40mph, I would take on Gary's Evo, which is knocking on 400bhp now.
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see this is what i think cos you have 290lb/ft like how much extra is a 300bhp zectec gonna be in torque?
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Originally Posted by iamrab
see this is what i think cos you have 290lb/ft like how much extra is a 300bhp zectec gonna be in torque?
2.1 Zetec Turbo with a T34 is going to give you 300ft-lb from about 2700 - 6000 rpm.. A comparative 1.6.. I dunno, ask the 1.6 boys on here, i'm sure they'll be able to tell you it's not quite as wide a power band
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Tony, you're such a CUNT. I removed my mirrors for the 168mph. I didn't tape any joins for that one. You want a rematch with full trim then??!!

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Tony, that 163 in your avatar, is that an unofficial figure then?
That was because I altered the tyre size inputs throughout the day due to wear since it was first measured. If I'd have left it alone it probably would have been ok

When the Stack was first fitted and the car did 148mph, the Stack read a peak of 148mph. So they are spot on when you give them the correct measurements.
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no see a zetec turbo doesnt really apeal to me cos really all u want is 300bhp i mean how much more power do u honestly want ...if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

plus how much is a zetec turbo conversion?
If all you want is peak power, then fine go with the small engine.. however, if what you want is a good spread of torque (the thing that makes you go fast ultimately), then you need to look at a decent engine..

but matey your sorta no prove to back up you claims i mean the two fastest cars in the country both have 1.6 so wouldnt u agree that the 1.6 tuned is a better option ?
not every one with big power cars are into top speed plus two of the fastest cars in the country run zetecs
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Originally Posted by iamrab
see this is what i think cos you have 290lb/ft like how much extra is a 300bhp zectec gonna be in torque?
well my zvh @ 25psi is 336bhp but 360fbt so i would say alot more torque
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no see a zetec turbo doesnt really apeal to me cos really all u want is 300bhp i mean how much more power do u honestly want ...if tony turbos car and do 168 with 300bhp thats good enuff for me lol

plus how much is a zetec turbo conversion?
If all you want is peak power, then fine go with the small engine.. however, if what you want is a good spread of torque (the thing that makes you go fast ultimately), then you need to look at a decent engine..

but matey your sorta no prove to back up you claims i mean the two fastest cars in the country both have 1.6 so wouldnt u agree that the 1.6 tuned is a better option ?
not every one with big power cars are into top speed plus two of the fastest cars in the country run zetecs
No, very true.

But in the same way, some of us get as much satisfaction from achieving what we have with the original engine. Mine still runs the original Crank that it rolled out of the factory with, which hasn't been ground. It also runs the original Exhaust manifold and a standard Head Gasket.

It's just a by-product that mine has always done well in Top Speed events.
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how many are in the 12's and mines a cvh 1600
not all fast cars a zvh zetec lol
5.1 to 60 11.1 to 100 12.9 1/4 163 topspeed how many zvh zetecs do that and its a track car lol
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how many are in the 12's and mines a cvh 1600
not all fast cars a zvh zetec lol
5.1 to 60 11.1 to 100 12.9 1/4 163 topspeed how many zvh zetecs do that and its a track car lol


My long-geared CVH driven by someone who can't launch for toffee has done a 5.9, which isn't outstanding, but its not bad all things considered!

My longer distance times are quite good though, like the 0-1 Mile.
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There is a certain intrigue into making big power 1.6's, just in principle of engineering
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Originally Posted by Tim
how many are in the 12's and mines a cvh 1600
not all fast cars a zvh zetec lol
5.1 to 60 11.1 to 100 12.9 1/4 163 topspeed how many zvh zetecs do that and its a track car lol
maybe three zetec turbos i can think of that have faster times, but then yours oillies, tony and christian times are bloody quick for an rs turbo no matter what the engine type, i just thought some of iamrab statements where not Entirely true..


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