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Old 27-03-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Drjones
so whats the big problem wiv ZVH?
they dont rev.
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Originally Posted by Drjones
so whats the big problem wiv ZVH?
they dont rev.
with the right Components they can most zvh have just a stage three cvh head trying to feed a 2045cc engine just about helps the 1600
Old 27-03-2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by turboboss
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so whats the big problem wiv ZVH?
they dont rev.
with the right Components they can most zvh have just a stage three cvh head trying to feed a 2045cc engine just about helps the 1600
very true.
Old 27-03-2006, 10:05 PM
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The Zetec can be made to rev. But this involves "fixing the fudamental flaws" in the engine i.e stroke for one thing.

It's not that it can't be done or if you do it, the engine will give you problems, it's just that the engine is very based around ecconomy and emissions whilst being naturally aspirated.

16v heads are mainly for response due to the small diameter ports increasing gas speeds. Obviously the small ports become a restriction high up in the revs.

There are ways and means to over come most problems on most engines.
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The Zetec can be made to rev. But this involves "fixing the fudamental flaws" in the engine i.e stroke for one thing.

It's not that it can't be done or if you do it, the engine will give you problems, it's just that the engine is very based around ecconomy and emissions whilst being naturally aspirated.

16v heads are mainly for response due to the small diameter ports increasing gas speeds. Obviously the small ports become a restriction high up in the revs.

There are ways and means to over come most problems on most engines.
daz we were refering to the zvh which with a high flowing head not your normal stage three shite and different style inlet and maybe a tubular exhaust they can be made to rev.. but i see what you mean about the zetec.. to get big figures costs money
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i would go ZT lots better
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Originally Posted by streetracersgd
i would go ZT lots better

only reason i went down the zvh route i spent alot of money on an excellent cvh head plus a custom newman cam which i had on my 1.9cvh, far better off going full zetec
Old 28-03-2006, 01:06 PM
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ZVH is a very good engine if a good bulid
Old 28-03-2006, 03:02 PM
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The one am looking at buying is a 1.8 bottom end with a stage 3 head and piper 285t2 cam.

So would you not go for this idea?
Old 28-03-2006, 03:17 PM
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if you've already got the head and cam mate,then your 50% commited already,i would stay 1600.The only reason i am going 16v is because i am starting from scratch.There is no point going 1800.iF your going zvh,then mate,you might as well go all the way or not at all(in this i mean 2.0 zvh). people go zvh to get the low down torque and drivability,which will be harder to get out of the 1800!!!!!!
personally i would stay away from zvh's,ive always looked at them as a bit of a bodgers market(no offence).all the agro of the SPECIAL conversion bits and pieces and work involved,you might as well stay 1600 cvh. the problem with the cvh isnt the bottom end,ITS THE HEAD AND THE OIL FLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
apparently there are a couple of well known engine builders who have said they have NEVER seen a snapped cvh standard rod! they only snap at the caps(bolts).
THE ULTIMATE engine would be a 1600cvh bottom end,with a worked Zetec 16v head.(if it could be done).
i can only imagine what it would drive like
Old 28-03-2006, 04:17 PM
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the 18 zvh is very good we did one i a fiesta rst that was in performance ford in the feb 2006 it is now on gas too lol and is fine and will be for a long time yet
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its a ready made engine am looking at.

Streetracersqd;

What kind of spec was the fiesta rst???
Old 28-03-2006, 09:45 PM
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i was just about to ask this, can the 16v head not bolt onto the cvh bottom end?

ihave an rs turbo bottom end and a 2 litre zetec head.
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Originally Posted by Drjones
its a ready made engine am looking at.

Streetracersqd;

What kind of spec was the fiesta rst???
it was running std head with accralites arps one of my T34 turbos and 15psi its only running 220bhp at the min then the gas lol
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i dont think it is possible to mount a 1600 bottom end to a 16v head.the oil ways wont line up for a start
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