adamski frst

ok guys went to my car yesterday and there was water in the boot it had been raining it did it the other day but thought the rain came in via the water on the boot but i noticed yesterday the water is coming from the C piller i think it is the one the rear 1/4 is welded too the water was running down it frm somewhere????

i thought it could be the seal but it perfect there looks to be no holes or anything???? i'm just really confused where its coming from anyone help??

could it be frm the roof rails??

any help appreciated

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GAZ345

IS THE WATER COMING IN OVER THE SEAL?? THE SEAL GOES HARD WITH AGE & CAN LET WATER COME IN BUT IT USUALY COMES IN AT BOTTOM OF SEAL, MOST COMMON PLACE FOR WATER TO COME IN IS WHERE THE TOP SPOILER LEG GOES THROUGH THE TAIL GATE THERE SHOULD BE A RUBBER WASHER UNDERNEATH THE TAILGATE, SOMETIMES THE WATER GET'S PAST THIS DRIPS DOWN INSIDE TAILGATE TO BOOT FLOOR VIA THE BOOT CATCH, THATS WHY COSSIE TAILGATES RUST MORE THAN STANDARD ESCORTS, ALSO THERE IS LITTLE DRAIN FLAPS BEHIND THE BUMPER, THESE ARE MADE OF VERY SOFT RUBBER & CAN LIFT UP AT HIGH SPEED IN THE RAIN & WATER CAN COME IN FROM THE TYRES, TAPE DOWN THE FRONT EDGE SO THEY CAN STILL LET WATER OUT BUT WON'T FLAP UP, IF YOUR SAYING WATER IS COMING IN FROM THE C PILLAR THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS THE DRAIN PIPE FOR THE SUNROOF RUNS DOWN INSIDE THE PILLAR, MIGHT BE SPLIT BUT I'VE NEVER HERD OF THIS HAPPENING BEFORE

Glenn5

also double check at the top corners of boot shut theres 2 circular stickers colour coded that cover bolt holes for the roof rack sometimes these lift off or split

adamski frst

i saw the sticker was gonna cover that see if it was that leaking but there was loads of water the seal is fine not stiff so not that could be the sunroof i'm going to check that this week the pipe may have come off or something??

Damo V

My gues would be rear light seals

THE RADMAN

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make sure the sunroof drain pipes go into the top of the "drain/ventilation flaps" each side of the boot and havent been pulled out,if not then like damo says

adamski frst

ok it doesn't seem to be coming in throught the lights, sun sunroof was bone dry when i opened it just, yet the boot was wet again!!! the c pillar was dripping again so i'm well confused!!!

alomst as if theres a hole where its falling into but there are no holes!!!

Tandy

just a thought. drop the rear seats down so you can see in the back and get a mate to pour bucket of water slowly over the tailgate just to check it's getting in around the bottom of the upper rear spoiler support. basic i know but it's worth a shot

adamski frst

its hard to explain really the water is running down the c pillar behind the rear 1/4 and is dripping onto the rear turret cover so its difficult to see where its coming from!!??

chRiS & dawn

Had a leak on mine and tried everything suggested above as seal looked fine. Still leaked so bought new seal anyway and it cured it.

When comparing new seal to old the old one had flattened and wasn't sealing properly. Not obvious until you put them side by side.

New seal about Ł30 but had to order it. Bought new door seals as well and you wouldn't believe the difference to the old ones.

Hope u fix it.

Chris

GAZ345

[quote="adamski frst"]its hard to explain really the water is running down the c pillar behind the rear 1/4 and is dripping onto the rear turret cover so its difficult to see where its coming from!!?? [/quot
have you checked it's not coming in through your side window seal

adamski frst

yes thanks lads i checked the rear window seal its fine as i said its behind the rear 1/4 panel its running along the c pillar could it be frm the roof rails???? really depressing me we all know what water does especially in places you cant reach to treat

THE RADMAN

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which side? have you checked the rear window squirter pipe? that runs along n/s,it hasnt come off the nozzle or cracked where it goes through the boot grommet?

adamski frst

its the driver side and the grommet is fine it could be frm the patch over the hole, the ones that is either side but the patch does not feel broken when i checked it maybe aswell that i put some tape over that just encase?? eliminate that it cant be the rear boot seal as its too much water to be coming through that it soaked a small rag i put @ the bottom of the C pillar earlier on the inside of the boot

adamski frst

ok been out sealed the holes @ the top that have tabs on them and it rained again and the water is still running down the c pillar

does anyone know where the sunroof pipes go?? as i cant understand where this water is coming frm its not the boot seal i eliminated that

its only doing this on the driver side tho

damn cars

Simon Day

have you tried the bucket of water trick yet?

cozzymatt

strip the boot area out, sit in there, get ya mate to spray with a hosepipe and you sit in the boot to see where it is coming from!!! done this loads of times at work... it never fails

Simon Day

sounds like a fool proof plan!

cozzymatt

oh yes

Damo V

try opening the sunroof and jacking the front of the car up then pouriong a pint of water in the "tray", see if it runs out in the car

adamski frst

found is on the driver roof rail know at the back....

ok so heres my next problem mine are bonded on solid!!!!! presume thats not std how are peoples usually fastened???? need to get it off to deal with the problem ....

looks crap @ the mo but i stuck some tape on the whole rail there for now rather have tape than water

thanks for the advice tho guys i had to go through a day of testing and taking the roof lining out

Damo V

Never had them out, you sure they are bonded in and not secured in from inside?

adamski frst

unfortunatly there seriously bonded on can see it blatently massive blobs under it

Damo V

That may e the problem then... Not meant to be like that are they??

adamski frst

thats my question whats yours like???

Damo V

Dont realy take much notice but not noticed a load of bonding in there....

esko mk1

Hi!The roof rails are bonded with body sealant from the factory.I had the same problem on mine,water came via c-pillar in the boot.The roof rail is easy to remove.Just lever the rail carefully with some wooden stick and cut the sealant with snap off blade.Then scrape off all the old sealant.Clean with thinner.Apply new sealant,and the rail while its wet.I used SIKA 11FC sealant on mine(I don´t know if thats known there?here its quite common.)Anyway its urethane sealant,and quite flexible.Hope that helps!

THE RADMAN

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lets hope it hasnt been leaking to long and that theres nothing nasty lurking under the rail when you remove it

adamski frst

jusr read this post after a few days away and thanks for the info esko mk1 yes it is the rail haven't got round to fixing it yet but i shall be in v near future there is tape on the rail for now and has stopped the leak...

looks pants but rather that than water thanks again and rememeber everyone to check yours if you get the same problem!!!