converting a std escort to cosworth ?
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converting a std escort to cosworth ?
Hi, my friends wants an escort rs cosworth but in Malta (not sure bout uk) a factory escort cosworth is more expensive than a brand new fiesta sports. Cosworth Escorts cost around 20 000 euros so he is thinking about converting a 3 door model to cosworth specs.
Body is not his issue as you can get cossie panels or maybe custom made fibre ones.
Regarding drivetrain would it be easier to get a sierra floorpan and use sierra gear or fabricate mountings and modify original floor pan??
Also about suspention is the escorts alot different than the sierra??
Body is not his issue as you can get cossie panels or maybe custom made fibre ones.
Regarding drivetrain would it be easier to get a sierra floorpan and use sierra gear or fabricate mountings and modify original floor pan??
Also about suspention is the escorts alot different than the sierra??
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so suspention sytem are both identical?? but when i see high powered sierra's they tend to lower the rear a lot under heavy acceleration but escorts don t could it be cause they increase power and not sus?? or maybe converted to cossie and not the sus??? or is it spring sizes that differ???
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The Escos is nothing like lesser models, underneath lies a shortened Sierra Saph floor pan and running gear. In actual fact the Escos only has 3 identical panels compared to the lesser models.
Tell your friend to save his cash and buy the real thing, far easier
Martin
Tell your friend to save his cash and buy the real thing, far easier
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The Escos is nothing like lesser models, underneath lies a shortened Sierra Saph floor pan and running gear. In actual fact the Escos only has 3 identical panels compared to the lesser models.
Tell your friend to save his cash and buy the real thing, far easier
Martin
Tell your friend to save his cash and buy the real thing, far easier
Martin
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The Cosworth and a regular 3dr Escort don't even have the same outer dimensions. The Cosworth is a bit longer and is basically a Sierra with an Escort body fitted to it. Don't convert an Escort, save cash for a real Cosworth or buy a Sierra Cosworth which tend to be cheaper than Escort Cosworths.
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The Cosworth and a regular 3dr Escort don't even have the same outer dimensions. The Cosworth is a bit longer and is basically a Sierra with an Escort body fitted to it. Don't convert an Escort, save cash for a real Cosworth or buy a Sierra Cosworth which tend to be cheaper than Escort Cosworths.
Put quite simply an Escos is an Escort by name, and the similarity stops there.
Also remember the Cos was the only varient to have a longitudal engine.
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it´s nearly the same, the sierra has a higher wheelbase than the escort, so the handling in the escort is a little better!
but the sierra has the better aerodynamic resistence, this is an advantage on higher speeds!
but the sierra has the better aerodynamic resistence, this is an advantage on higher speeds!
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sorry my ignorance but does the sierra wheelbase differ between saphire and 3 door? (both cossie) as the 3 dr seems shorter than the saph it looks almost like the escort (in terms of lenght)
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The Escos has a SHORTENED Sierra floor pan, as the Escort is obviously smaller than a Sierra, wheelbase is the distance between the front and rear wheels, it doesn't necessarily mean the car is longer!
Getting trivial there is 2 inches difference between a Sierra and a Saph in addition the Saph has a bigger boot as well.
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Getting trivial there is 2 inches difference between a Sierra and a Saph in addition the Saph has a bigger boot as well.
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About being aerodynamically better... That just depends what you consider to be better. The Escort has more downforce (and therefore more grip), but this also increases the drag coefficient. Therefore the top speed of the Escort is lower than that of the Sapphire.
But converting an Escort will cost a lot of money, which you don't get back when you sell it. The real deal might cost a bit more, but it will most likely keep its value.
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Damn right it keeps the value lol and around here thanks to the new registration fee (as you have to register a second hand car from a foreign country and pay an insane fee) and the new license fees keeping an imported escort cossie would mean 1400 euros a year excluding insurance and buying one from malta means alot ALOT of cash and the value rised since the lisences where changed (((((((((
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Damn right it keeps the value lol and around here thanks to the new registration fee (as you have to register a second hand car from a foreign country and pay an insane fee) and the new license fees keeping an imported escort cossie would mean 1400 euros a year excluding insurance and buying one from malta means alot ALOT of cash and the value rised since the lisences where changed (((((((((
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Escort cosworth is:
Shortened sierra floor pan and prop
Modified escort body panels
Its going to be a MASSIVE job to try and recreate one, would be no easier than for example turning his escort into subaru floorpan or evo, in fact arguably harder as at least they have the engine the same way around as your friends escort where as the sierra and escort cosworth have it the other way around.
Shortened sierra floor pan and prop
Modified escort body panels
Its going to be a MASSIVE job to try and recreate one, would be no easier than for example turning his escort into subaru floorpan or evo, in fact arguably harder as at least they have the engine the same way around as your friends escort where as the sierra and escort cosworth have it the other way around.
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Escort cosworth is:
Shortened sierra floor pan and prop
Modified escort body panels
Its going to be a MASSIVE job to try and recreate one, would be no easier than for example turning his escort into subaru floorpan or evo, in fact arguably harder as at least they have the engine the same way around as your friends escort where as the sierra and escort cosworth have it the other way around.
Shortened sierra floor pan and prop
Modified escort body panels
Its going to be a MASSIVE job to try and recreate one, would be no easier than for example turning his escort into subaru floorpan or evo, in fact arguably harder as at least they have the engine the same way around as your friends escort where as the sierra and escort cosworth have it the other way around.
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Yeah it was the evo I was saying is the right away around, sorry didnt word that properly.
But getting back to the point everyone is making, its really not a case of "converting" one to cosworth spec, you would bascially be building a new car from a sierra and just using a couple of the panels from his escort.
But getting back to the point everyone is making, its really not a case of "converting" one to cosworth spec, you would bascially be building a new car from a sierra and just using a couple of the panels from his escort.
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When he finishes I assume it will be illegal under malta law anyway or a massive ballache to get road legal again? (seems to be only the uk we get away with this stuff and they are trying to make that harder) so he's probably not bothered about bending a few rules so how about this:
Find escort cosworth in uk for 10K
Drive his car over
Swap plates, drive escort cossie back
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When he finishes I assume it will be illegal under malta law anyway or a massive ballache to get road legal again? (seems to be only the uk we get away with this stuff and they are trying to make that harder) so he's probably not bothered about bending a few rules so how about this:
Find escort cosworth in uk for 10K
Drive his car over
Swap plates, drive escort cossie back
Sorted
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When he finishes I assume it will be illegal under malta law anyway or a massive ballache to get road legal again? (seems to be only the uk we get away with this stuff and they are trying to make that harder) so he's probably not bothered about bending a few rules so how about this:
Find escort cosworth in uk for 10K
Drive his car over
Swap plates, drive escort cossie back
Sorted
When he finishes I assume it will be illegal under malta law anyway or a massive ballache to get road legal again? (seems to be only the uk we get away with this stuff and they are trying to make that harder) so he's probably not bothered about bending a few rules so how about this:
Find escort cosworth in uk for 10K
Drive his car over
Swap plates, drive escort cossie back
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