hello

just wondering if there is possible to get a conversion plug so that i could fit p8 ecu to my eeciv4 engine loom. This is if the p8 have been converted to run coilpacks that i already have in the eeciv4.

thanks

 

dont think so mate, as the sensors are different and the number of wires is different,

you would need to have the full loom from a big turbo , or a new one made by Ryan. and it not just as simople as swapping the ecu,s (even if its been converted to run coilpacks) you would need to swap over all the small turbo sensors for the large turbo equivilents, there are thigs like crank sensors, phase sensors etc that are completely different between the 2.

 

What he said.

 

ok thanks for answer, i guess it will have to be a new loom then if im gona convert it so, i dont install a faulty loom that have been coroded.
and then buy all the sensors also, altough i reall liked to hold on to the coilpacks

 

What exactly is different Mike??

I know already.....

Crank sensor - different bkt and plug (36-1 crank pulley?)

Phase sensor - Does away with the dizzy (You can use this though)

Idle valve - same type ish/plug?

Coolant temp sensor - ??

ACT sensor - ??

water temp sensor - ??

Knock sensor - ??

MAP sensor - ??



I always wondered why small to big turbo conversions are quoted as being really expensive...

Ecu, Loom, few sensors, 2nd hand T34 - job done!! ?

Grand at the most!!

 

P8s fetch £350 .

Add up the cost of all new sensors.

A new loom etc and that comes to WELL over £1k without a second hand turbo .

Don't forget new leads, coilpack etc etc .

 

Alright £1500 - and thats just cos I added a set of your plug leads!!

Exactly what sensors need changing then?? feel free to copy and paste my first post!!??

 

There is a list of every part you need that Redkop posted up, do a search you lazy biatch .

 

there's no reason why a P8 can't use a 36-1 crank pulley pattern instead of the 4 lugs. as long as the sensor is compatible with the ecu, the code in the p8 eprom could be rewritten to understand the 36-1 pattern

 

Ecu can be bought roughly 150pounds. I have sold a few.
The P8 is used on Ducati 916 strada,916sp.996sps. Unscrew the amplifiers of the side and change chip and I think you should be away.

 

is it??? Never knew that!!

 

its also used on ferrari f40s, (2 of them) lancia delta integrale, and a few fiat turbo and non turbo cars

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducat...spagenameZWDVW

you recon that is the same as the p8 in escos?
i think it looks a bit diffrent

 

casing is diff,suppose it depends what the inside is like

 

that particular one ISN'T a P8 though, P8's are IAW 048-P8, maybe the earlier 916's had them on,

 

The ecu in the picture in not the correct one. The one in the picture is a Magnetti Marrelli 1.6M from a ducati 748/916/996.

I stated 916strada,916sp,999sps,916,955,996 corse(excluding 996rs) this is the P8 one.

The P8 is square shaped not rectangular. Both side covers can be unscrewed and on the bike they have amplifiers screwed either side which you will need to remove.

The P8 is also larger than the 1.6m ecu.

It is correct that intergrale and ferrari etc use the ecu.

 

Little mistake in post 996sps not 999sps(there is'nt one)

 

Some of the fuel injected Aprillias also use the P8, and Ahmed and Stu both offer chips for these bikes... .

 

old news

you might find this interesting

http://www.sigmaperformance.com/weber.html

 

so basically to cut a long story short you have to go through a management/turbo change that WILL cost at least 2k maybe 3-4k depending on power/turbo/clutch/inj....

my change in total will have cost about 3k ish by the time everything is done really depends what you want out of the car.....

 

Would a conversion to Autronic ecu be better?
Mondern ecu
Warranty
Compatibility to existing sensors etc.
Autotune seems great idea.

Just a thought! any views guys?

 

yes i think you are right.
autronic would be a better option, specialy the autotune future looks very cool.

 

Another option is motec.
Epicycle do a connection that plugs straight into original P8 plug on main loom and straight into motec unit M4 model, so no hacking on the loom.

Not directly aimed at cars but I can't see why it can't be used.