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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Well happy my T38 has arrived

Just got to get the rest of the bits

What injectors will i need for 450bhp ?

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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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got pics of it m8?
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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No Sorry

Its just bigger than a T34.

Has a .63 exhaust housing and a bigger comp housing.

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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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mines in my sig..
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Here it is

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=163066
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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will need at least greys mate
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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go for 750cc mate or greys.

if you get large inj's, ie bigger than greys, you will need them flow tested and matched, bout £200 from states all inc.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Think Greys will be right at the max for 450bhp

Was thinking 850cc or 1000cc ones.

Are these too big ?

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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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id say grays 4 450

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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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1000cc are fine for 200 - 700+ bhp wot i've been told, as well mappable at low rpm's for good idle,

but best speak to Karl or Stu, as they will no alot more.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Anymore comments on injector size please

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Anymore comments on injector size please

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for 450bhp 750cc injectors will do the job,unless you want more power in the future then go for 1000cc injectors but these are dependent on what ecu your using because they can be harder to map right.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Anymore comments on injector size please

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for 450bhp 750cc injectors will do the job,unless you want more power in the future then go for 1000cc injectors but these are dependent on what ecu your using because they can be harder to map right.
Using a L8 ECU, 450bhp will be enough

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
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for 450bhp 750cc injectors will do the job,unless you want more power in the future then go for 1000cc injectors but these are dependent on what ecu your using because they can be harder to map right.
Using a L8 ECU, 450bhp will be enough

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then 750cc will supply enough fuel and the L8 will work good with these injectors maybe add closed loop fuel control?
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Anymore comments on injector size please

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for 450bhp 750cc injectors will do the job,unless you want more power in the future then go for 1000cc injectors but these are dependent on what ecu your using because they can be harder to map right.
Using a L8 ECU, 450bhp will be enough

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then 750cc will supply enough fuel and the L8 will work good with these injectors maybe add closed loop fuel control?
Would be good, power and economy

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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My Greys are flat out with my Universal Turbo's version of the T38, and she produced an honest 430bhp, so if your really after a genuine 450, then I'd go for one of the more modern injectors than a grey.

This was with a 7.5:1 cr, Fully Modified Head, cams Pro Alloy full Intercooler, pre turbo cooler and rad....... the lot !!!!!.....all assembled and mapped by Karl Norris.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
My Greys are flat out with my Universal Turbo's version of the T38, and she produced an honest 430bhp, so if your really after a genuine 450, then I'd go for one of the more modern injectors than a grey.

This was with a 7.5:1 cr, Fully Modified Head, cams Pro Alloy full Intercooler, pre turbo cooler and rad....... the lot !!!!!.....all assembled and mapped by Karl Norris.
As said above thought Greys would be to small

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Im running a Turbo technics T38 and greys. Had a full biuld by Harvey and managed 432bhp on the dyno.
Was told to go down the 8 injector route with RS500 plenum assemble and the turbo would make 470bhp.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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You need to go 1000cc injectors, maybe different management.

Call Sheady, will know better than most IMO

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MAD Ade
You need to go 1000cc injectors, maybe different management.

Call Sheady, will know better than most IMO

Ade.
karl can map prefectly 750-1000cc injectors on the L8 ecu no need to go for different management
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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i got 750 rc injectors in mine as said very good at idle and good for a honest 500 bhp

cheers jay
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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Cheers Guys

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Well happy my T38 has arrived

Just got to get the rest of the bits

What injectors will i need for 450bhp ?

Steve.
hi there got the same turbo in my 500 im using 8x webber x039 they are far superior than greys and make a much better spray pattern
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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I hope your not fitting it before the rolling road day lol

Thats what turbo i want to use on mine as i think im going to go for an honest 450 bhp on my wire rung 205 block and see how it goes.

Dont wana go the full hit and have the t4 even though id like too as my mates saph with a t4 is a bit laggy and i do like the quick spooling of the t34.

What othert mods will you need to do mr 4i ??
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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I hope your not fitting it before the rolling road day lol

Thats what turbo i want to use on mine as i think im going to go for an honest 450 bhp on my wire rung 205 block and see how it goes.

Dont wana go the full hit and have the t4 even though id like too as my mates saph with a t4 is a bit laggy and i do like the quick spooling of the t34.

What othert mods will you need to do mr 4i ??
No i won't fit the turbo before the RR Day.

Got a 200 block to build up and a unskimmed 2wd head. Have most parts now just need pistons and cams. Head will get a major porting and fit a BD14 inlet and BD10 exhaust cam. Will run about 7.6.1 comp. Some 750cc injectors and the T38.

I hope this will give me my 450bhp.

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Sounds nice mate, im unsure of exactly what to do with mine, i fancy goin t4 or even the gt route
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Chris, speak to your tuner then!!!
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i


Got a 200 block to build up and a unskimmed 2wd head. Have most parts now just need pistons and cams. Head will get a major porting and fit a BD14 inlet and BD10 exhaust cam. Will run about 7.6.1 comp. Some 750cc injectors and the T38.

I hope this will give me my 450bhp.

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if i was you i would go cam on inlet, but a new std zorst cam, but not bd10.

750's and 8.0:1 and worked head
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Was in an MSD car today with L8, 1000cc injectors, and sub 2% idle CO. Not finished yet either, but she drove nicely round town
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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pushing the boat out abit steve
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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I've been running 1000cc+ injectors with better than factory drivability on std weber ecu's on quite a lot of cars. It's certainly becoming more popular.

I can't speak for all other tuners, but I think that Stu and I are one of the few who can actually achieve this with the std Weber hardware!
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl
I've been running 1000cc+ injectors with better than factory drivability on std weber ecu's on quite a lot of cars. It's certainly becoming more popular.

I can't speak for all other tuners, but I think that Stu and I are one of the few who can actually achieve this with the std Weber hardware!

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1000cc injectors fuckin overkill way too big!
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by OvaBoost
1000cc injectors fuckin overkill way too big!
No such thing as too big until you reach the point you lose control and have to compromise another aspect of your fuelling parameters to sustain them. My favourite YB injector with L8 flows around 850cc at 3bar.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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better to have an injector running at half it's capacity than one being run at 90%

and i have seen first hand today a car Karl was working on with 1000cc injectors and very low emissions
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