My trust electrical manifold came through yesterday, once fitted there is nowhere for the cold start thing to go. Are there gonna be any bad effects on losing this?? or will it just be case of leaving my car to warm up b4 driving as i do this anyways??


i will be putting a post up with pics of the new inlet soon if i can get me digi cam at lunch.

 

cold start thing?!?!

never heard of one of them!

Do you mean the idle valve or maybe the coolant temp sensor
alex

 

i think it may be called the idle contol valve aswell? i know it has something to do with cold starting

i will take a pic at lunch if i can

 

absoulte nightmare without them, lewis doesnt have one on his and its a fookin pig
you have to sit there till the engine warms up enough otherwise it stalls!

right pain in the ARSE!

 

if its the idle control valve, you will have to adjust the throttle cable so the throttle flap will be open slightly otherwise it will stall regardless of hot or cold.

unless you mean the egr shit??

pipes going from zorst manifold to inlet etc?

 

Car may not run when cold and also may stall when turning lights/ aircon on etc

They are there for a reason and should be retained.

 

hope your wrong mate as i cant be bothered withloads of hassel.

what do u mean adjust the throttle cable?? do u mean adjust it when cold starting??

it defo aint the EGR i havent had that on this engine or me last one.

 

no im not wrong! well lewis has no ISCV, so i pressume that causes it.

its a fookin pig you have to sit there for about 2 mins with your fook on the acceletor.

 

I dont run a ISV on mine as ryan said it is a bit of a pig but normally by the time i got to the end of the rd she is fine!

 

So it will start , i will just have to sit there for min with foot slightly on the throttle till it warms up enough to idle.

think i will disconnect it b4 i start her at lunch and see how bad it is.

is there anyway to get around this?? im getting the car mapped by MSD next tuesday , will there be anything they can do to sort this??

 

i supose u could tap the inlet & fit the standard frst isv mayb!? :s

mine has the isv there but it was not wired up with the pectel loom!

it aint that bad m8! if u r idlin then it takes a while but soon as u drrive say 100ft or so she will idle fine!

 

hopefully it aint that bad and i can live with it. If not u reckon i could just tap a hole in the inlet for my current isv and wire it up . What does the isv control exactly and will it be ok just tapped into the top of the inlet then.

 

I can live with mine m8!

I dont knwo the techy side of how it works to b perfectly honest & i woudlnt know if tappin the inlet will work ur best of speakin to stu or some1 with knowledge on them!

 

what i mean is that, when my mates ISCV fooked up, we adjusted his throttle cable so the butterfly in the throttle body was open slightly.

dunno aobut the fez but on the escort there is a small metal clip, pull it out and pull the black plasic bit out 1 or 2 notches, then put the clip back in.

it should idle ok then

 

the ISCV is a soleniod, it opens and shuts rappidly a plunger, to let air bypass the throttle body butterfly when the throttle is closed.

 

why not ask Stu what he thinks

 

ISCV needs to be fitted to the throttle body not to the inlet, i.e before the butterfly as fudge has pointed out.

 

Right i tried unplugging the isv and running the car. It kept stalling any time i let off the throttle even after the car fully warmed up and the fan was cutting in. Looks like im stuffed then cause whats the point in fitting this kit if the car wont idle. Could it be cutting out cause of my cams etc??? as the idle is quite dogey at the best of times

 

ive got the same prob when i fit my throttle bodies mate, i have come up with a simple solution.

all you need to do mate is get an alloy block made up the same shape as the ISCV with 2 take offs, then have a take off from your air filter go in one side of the ISCV, then have a take off in your inlet to the other side of the ISCV.

quite simple.

all it needs to do is bypass FILTERED air to the inlet

 

sorry m8 i dunno mine seems to work fine!

 

lewis, yours must have air bypassing the throttle body somewhere, if not then it wont run, end of...

 

unless as i said earlier yours has the butterfly open a bit when off throttle?

 

get a remote one. Thats what I have It's off a lancer. Got it from a scrappy for Ł10.

 

not a clue dan but it works so i am happy!

 

can u tell me more about it? how does it work? how do you fit it?

cheers

 

id imagine by remote he means that its not screwed directly to the inlet like it is at the mo.

kinda like what i suggested i spose????

i might be completely wrong tho??

 

lmao

 

one of these. then pipe to inlet

 

so it will have a pipe from before the throttle i.e charge carrier, and one after the throttle i.e the inlet.

Job Done

good pic jon

 

thats about what i was on about lol

 

yep thats right. Works a treat. There is a whole range of cars that had that engine fitted so should be no problem finding one at the scrappy.

 

right, im gonna see if i can use my std isv the way jon_erst_s2 and fugeass have suggested. Ive gotta a bit of problem that i need to get this sorted before i get the car mapped on tuesday as obviously i iant gonna get the full potential out of it if i get it mapped with a std inlet then change after

 

the ISCV won't have any affect on the mapping (well so paul hills told me)

 

depends if its just getting mapped for full load or if he's doing the full schebang

 

mine was being completely mapped. In the end it was mapped with it but I don't think it makes any difference.

 

it will have an effect if the car cuts out every time u let off the throttle , which is what is happening when i disconnect the iscv

 

lol ok well apart from that

 

did yours run without it connected then??