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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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I have towed a few times before, but only just realised that my license only has a picture of a car and a picture of a 7.5 tonner on the back, whereas my dads has loads of stuff including a car and trailer..

Do you need any special licenses to tow in the UK these days?

I've towed 1700kg's with a Laguna before
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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http://www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/dl_to...JANUARY%201997

MAXIMUM AUTHORISED MASS (MAM)
In this page reference is made to the maximum authorised mass (MAM) of vehicles and trailers. This should be taken to mean the permissible maximum weight, also known as the gross vehicle weight.

1. CAR LICENCES HELD BEFORE 1 JANUARY 1997
All drivers who passed a car test before 1 January 1997 retain their existing entitlement to tow trailers until their licence expires. This means they are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM. They also have entitlement to drive a minibus with a trailer over 750kgs MAM.

Drivers who hold subcategory C1+E - limited to 8.25 tonnes MAM, may apply for provisional entitlement to the new subcategory C1+E, in order to take and pass the test which will increase their combined vehicle and trailer entitlement to 12 tonnes MAM. It is not necessary to gain subcategory C1 entitlement first but drivers have to meet higher medical standards, and pass both the category C theory test and the subcategory C1+E practical test.

LARGE GOODS VEHICLE AND PASSENGER CARRYING VEHICLE LICENCES HELD BEFORE 1 JANUARY 1997

Since 1 January 1997 all drivers who hold category C or D entitlement have been limited to trailers up to 750kgs MAM; Category C+E or D+E must be held in order to tow trailers in excess of this.

2. CAR DRIVING LICENCE FIRST OBTAINED SINCE 1 JANUARY 1997
Drivers who passed a car test on or after 1 January 1997 are required to pass an additional driving test in order to gain entitlement to category B+E and all larger vehicles. In addition to the new driving tests, drivers of vehicles which fall within subcategories C1, C1+E, D1 and D1+E also have to meet higher medical standards.

Category B:
Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to 8 passenger seats

Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) OR a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.

For example:

a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle.

Whereas

the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle.

Vehicle manufacturers normally recommend a maximum weight of trailer appropriate to their vehicle. Details can usually be found in the vehicle’s handbook or obtained from car dealerships. The size of the trailer recommended for an average family car with an unladen weight of around 1 tonne would be well within the new category B threshold.

As for towing caravans, existing general guidance recommends that the laden weight of the caravan does not exceed 85% of the unladen weight of the car. In the majority of cases, caravans and small trailers towed by cars should be within the new category B threshold.

Note - An exemption from the driver licensing trailer limit allows a category B licence holder to tow a broken down vehicle from a position where it would otherwise cause danger or obstruction to other road users.

By passing a category B test National Categories F (tractor), K (pedestrian controlled vehicle) and P (moped) continue to be added automatically.

Category B+E:
Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM towing trailers over 750kgs MAM

Category B+E allows vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM to be combined with trailers in excess of 750kgs MAM. In order to gain this entitlement new category B licence holders have to pass a further practical test for category B+E. There is no category B+E theory test. For driver licensing purposes there are no vehicle/trailer weight ratio limits for category B+E.

Subcategory C1:
Medium sized goods vehicles 3.5 - 7.5 tonnes MAM
Subcategory C1 vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM allowing a combination of up to 8.25 tonnes MAM. But unlike category B, the 750kgs MAM trailer weight limit is an absolute limit.

In order to gain this entitlement category B licence holders have to meet higher medical standards and pass both theory and practical tests for subcategory C1.

Subcategory C1+E:
Medium sized goods vehicles 3.5 - 7.5 tonnes MAM plus trailer over 750kgs MAM

Subcategory C1+E allows vehicles to be combined with a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the combination does not exceed 12 tonnes MAM and the laden weight of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle.

In order to gain this entitlement category B licence holders have to pass further tests - subcategory C1 (theory and practical) followed by C1+E practical. There is no subcategory C1+E theory test. It will not be possible to go directly from category B to subcategory C1+E.

Note - Because EC Regulations limit drivers aged under 21 years to driving vehicles or combinations which weigh no more than 7.5 tonnes MAM, drivers under the age of 21 are not allowed to drive subcategory C1+E vehicles up to 12 tonnes MAM. But 18 year old drivers are allowed to take a test for subcategory C1+E which will allow trailers in excess of 750kgs MAM to be towed. Entitlement is limited to a combination weight of 7.5 tonnes MAM until the driver reaches 21 years, at which time the balance of 12 tonnes MAM entitlement automatically becomes effective.

Subcategory D1 Passenger carrying vehicles 9 - 16 passenger seats
Subcategory D1 vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM. There is no upper weight limit for subcategory D1 vehicles.

In order to gain this entitlement category B licence holders have to meet higher medical standards and pass both theory and practical tests for subcategory D1.

Subcategory D1+E - Passenger carrying vehicles 9-16 passenger seats with a trailer above 750kgs MAM
Subcategory D1+E vehicles may be combined with trailers over 750kgs provided the combination does not exceed 12 tonnes MAM and the laden weight of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle. The trailer must not be used for the carriage of passengers

In order to gain this entitlement category B licence holders have to pass further tests - subcategory D1 (theory and practical) followed by D1+E practical. There is no subcategory D1+E theory test. It is not possible to go directly from category B to subcategory D1+E.

Category C - Large goods vehicles above 3.5 tonnes MAM
Category C vehicles may be combined with trailers up to 750kgs MAM. The Directive does not impose an upper weight limit threshold for category C vehicles and the national limits will apply.

In order to gain this entitlement category B licence holders have to pass theory and practical tests for category C. (It is not necessary to gain subcategory C1 entitlement first.)

Category C+E Large goods vehicles above 3.5 tonnes MAM towing trailer over 750kgs MAM
Category C+E vehicles may be combined with a trailer over 750kgs MAM. The Directive does not impose an upper weight limit for category C+E and national limits apply.

In order to gain this entitlement category B licence holders have to pass further tests - category C (theory and practical) followed by C+E practical. There is no category C+E theory test. (It is not necessary to gain subcategory C1 or C1+E entitlement first).

Category D - Passenger carrying vehicle with more than 8 seats
Category D vehicles may be combined with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM. The Directive does not impose an upper weight limit for category D vehicles and national limits apply.

In order to gain this entitlement category B licence holders have to pass theory and practical tests for category D. (It is not necessary to gain subcategory D1 entitlement first).

Category D+E - Passenger carrying vehicle with more than 8 seats with trailer over 750kgs MAM

Category D+E vehicles may be combined with a trailer over 750kgs MAM. The Directive does not impose an upper weight limit for category D+E and national limits apply.

In order to gain this entitlement category B licence holders have to pass further tests - category D (theory and practical) followed by D+E practical. There is no category D+E theory test. (It is not necessary to gain subcategory D1 or D1+E entitlement first).


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3. UPGRADING ENTITLEMENT FOR TRAILERS
In general, an additional driving test is required for each category or subcategory of entitlement. But there are certain exceptions to this where drivers have already passed one test which involves trailer entitlement for a larger or equivalent sized vehicle.

This means that passing a test for subcategory C1+E or D1+E upgrades category B entitlement to B+E.

A test pass for subcategory C1+E upgrades subcategory D1, if held, to D1+E. But a test pass for subcategory D1+E does not upgrade subcategory C1 to C1+E because the trailer size required for a subcategory D1+E test is smaller than that required for a subcategory C1+E test.

Passing a test for category C+E upgrades category B entitlement to B+E and also confers entitlement to subcategory C1 and C1+E and, if category D or subcategory D1 is held, these are upgraded to category D+E or subcategory D1+E.

A test passed for category D+E upgrades category B and subcategory D1 to category B+E and subcategory D1+E respectively. But it does not upgrade category C or subcategory C1 entitlements because the trailer size required for a category D+E test is smaller than that required for a category C+E or subcategory C1+E test.


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4. PROVISIONAL TRAILER ENTITLEMENT
Since 1 January 1997 drivers are no longer able to sit a test in a heavy vehicle/trailer combination (e.g. category C+E or D+E) unless they have first passed a test and obtained a full licence in the corresponding rigid vehicle (e.g. category C or D).

This means that although drivers may have been driving a vehicle and trailer combination legitimately, under “L” plates, they are not permitted to sit a trailer test using such a combination until a test has been passed in a rigid vehicle and a full licence obtained for that category.


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Further information on driving tests or minimum test vehicle requirements may be obtained from the Driving Standards Agency (DSA), at Stanley House, 56 Talbot Street, Nottingham, NG1 5GU. For general enquiries please ring 0115 901 2515/6, to book a theory or practical test please ring
0870 010 1372.



This information is not intended to be a definitive statement of law.
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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How old's your licence ? The law changed mid 90's I believe

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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Adam_BlackRS, cheers but I can't make heads or tails of that

NUTS RuS, license is 5 years old mate, so after the 1997 change Adam was on about. But I can't figure if that change affects trailers over 750kg only?
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Right I think I can tow up to 750kg on my B license entitlement?

Not much use for the track cars then
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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thank fook i have an old one then,loads of letters for me to drive
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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B, BE, C1, C1E, D1, D1E, F, K, L, N, P
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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age benefits??????????????
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Note - An exemption from the driver licensing trailer limit allows a category B licence holder to tow a broken down vehicle from a position where it would otherwise cause danger or obstruction to other road users.

Your covered Phil as a Pug on track is a danger and obstruction to other track users


(only joking Pug people) )
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Lol and trailer test costs £600 iv been looking at doing it bu the cost is ridiculous
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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£600!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Daylight robbery Bet that doesnt include the trailer either!
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Lol not a chance, but thats a lower bound estimate depends on how good you are, i live on a farm and cant tow my stockcars even though have a landrover and 3500kg ifor trailer
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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I'm the same as Pop's on this on....

I've got B, BE, C1, C1E, D, D1E, F, K, L, N, P.

Only a few more to collect now
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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http://www.dsa.gov.uk/Category.asp?cat=211
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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I passed in 1998 and have B,B1,f,k,p on my licince so does that mean that its been illeagal when ive towed my cossie or S2 on a trailer before ?

Cant get my head round it all
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Category B:
Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to 8 passenger seats

Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) OR a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.

For example:

a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle.

Whereas

the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle.

Vehicle manufacturers normally recommend a maximum weight of trailer appropriate to their vehicle. Details can usually be found in the vehicle’s handbook or obtained from car dealerships. The size of the trailer recommended for an average family car with an unladen weight of around 1 tonne would be well within the new category B threshold.

As for towing caravans, existing general guidance recommends that the laden weight of the caravan does not exceed 85% of the unladen weight of the car. In the majority of cases, caravans and small trailers towed by cars should be within the new category B threshold.
Basically means that you can tow/trailer stuff up to the weight of the car your driving
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£600 - now I know I usually defend the law, but you'd be better off risking any potential fine at that money (obviously it would invalidate your insurance).
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GOT2BZETEC
Lol and trailer test costs £600 iv been looking at doing it bu the cost is ridiculous
I don't think it is. I looked into it a while ago and saw the test was about £75 but you have to provide a suitable car and trailer
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