this going in part wit my other thred bout fooked engine, i went to there wensite as told by a user and they seeme resonable on prices so:
Specialised Engines anyone heard of them and wat they like

 

been in the trade a long time

 

Cnuts, short and simple

Ripped me off, fucked my engine (that they built), treated me like dirt and never once accepted any liability for damage caused and money it cost me to put right....

Wouldn't touch em with a fecking bargepole

 

rite wont bother wit them then cheers thrush

 

Tell it how it is mate!

 

I don't mince words chap

Jamie - if your thinking of them about a US 1900 block, think again - their equipment and tools are ancient and they over charge.

Ring Mark and Graham at Euro Engines (only a couple of miles away from S.E.) as they use the same proper US blocks, but their gear is so much more advanced, workmanhip HUGELY better, and they are a million times better with customer service, along with the fact they only charge 2/3rds of the price S.E. do, and for a better job

And half the fitters there are ex S.E. employeee's who left cos they thought Ian )S.E. owner) was/is a cooont

 

didn't know that well i know where to look in the future

 

 

ok cool thrush i love the way u tell it how it is any one got ics of the 1.9 block im thinkin bout that or a re-build not keen on 2.1zvh no offense to zvh guys respect them just seems lots peopledoing dat now

 

1.9 looks identical to that of a 1.6, although it is about 2cm taller IIRC, hence the moniker "Tall Block"

It slots in place of the 1600 perfectly and is a proper block, unlike a lot of 1900 conversion others do, sch as Power Engineering (where a standard 1600 block is overbored, which is dangerous as the cylinder walls on a 1600 cannot safely exceed 1800cc)

The US blocks are actually 1860cc blocks from the US Escort, and bored to 1905cc, which is well inside safe tolerences for these blocks. The difference is the extra lenght of each cylinder, meaning more cpacity is gained thru stroke and not jsut bore.

Euro Engines can be found on the end of 01708 862 806, and are a 2min drive (ten min walk) from Lakeside shopping centre (which is usefull if you're going down there on ya own and have to wait most of the day for your car - I just went to lakeside and amused myself lol)

 

sweet so all my engine bling will fit straight on a 1.9block do they do tunned engines or anything coz i want it running around 200bhp again can they use my old turbo etc etc its a stage 1 wit 0.48 exhaust housing and wat bout chipping and camin it

 

Ian at SE IS a proper konb... I have had first hand experience with him face to face also.. well I say face to face, he that short he was looking more at my bellybutton

 

Steve RS off here had 1.9 SE Engine for sale, might be worth a look if that's what you're after.

 

My 1.9 Tall Block from them is spot on but it was built over 7 years ago "I think" so maybe they were a bit better back then

 

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...light=#1746917

 

yeah mate" steve rs" knows a friend who has a 1.9 cvh stage 3 engine think he wants arond 1300 quid and its only just bin run in,ideal if you want to go efi!!

 

About as good as Vulcan then

 

It's out of my old FRST, I didn't have the 1.9 put in though, the guy I sold it to did but he had to give up on his project as his missus had twins! It was running over 250 BHP at one point too, it was quite a beast!

 

yeah i heard a few horror stories out of em

 

Hmm thats good to know. One of our clients is in the unit next to SE and they were going to get me a discount. Don't think i'll bother now.

 

im goin wit a 1.9 bottom end wit my head and all the other stuff all being fitted by euro engines then sorted by grove garage i.e the set up and rolling road stuff and a new pro alloy intercooler just need tro ask mommy for the money

 

cool but im feeling the 1.9 bottom end wit a my 1.6 head and all dat but mark at grove said ian at s.e is his mate and has never had a prob wit there engines so he will be gettin me a price of there 1.9bottom end wit my 1.6 head and dat so we will see top guys at grove

 

Mark at Gorve is very good, but sorry, I wouldn't ever have one of Ian's engines in my car again - want the story?

My 3i, lost compression badly and the only rememdy was new car or new engine. So I chose new engine and since SE were well known I decided to give them a bell. Ian told me that a standard recon lump from them (rattled off a long spec list as to what the do to em, and guaranteed it to be "as good as a brand spanking new one, bang on 105bhp") and when I asked what the drive away cost was I was told Ł750, incl all the fitting blah blah.

So I go there, and I waited all day for it too as I had no one to give me a ride home - I live half a dozen junctions down the M25 from em. Was told I'd be out by 2pm if I got there at 8. So I got there at 7:45. Didn't get out till 4:30 tho

They couldn't get the car to start - I remember standing by the workshop door watching the guy cranlk it and crank it and crank it for over an hour, battery went flat several times, using power packs and all sorts. Got it going, then came to me with the bill - Ł870 A load of shit had been bunged on - new plugs (changed em only a month previous tho) new cam belt (fair enough, tho mine was only 2 months old) and some other crap no one told me about but Ian said "they HAD to be fitted, we wouldn't do it without using em" even tho no one said anything about extra cost, plus VAT on everything (I was led to belive tho that Ł751 included the VAT :@ )

Anyway I paid up and set off home. Wasn't long on the 25 before I thought, "hmm, this feels odd" and it was a little jerky. So I put it down to being all new and not run in. Imagine my dismay when I get home (remember I stuck religiously to soft acceleration and no more than 3k revs) to find it leaking oil! Only little drops, but leaking nether the less.

It continued to do this for a couple of weeks, rang Ian, was told it would leak off a tiny bit of oil for a month or so as all the seals had to bed in (hey I knew fook all bout engines). Then after a month I was driving hom and it went BANG! huge black cloud out the back, followed by a lot of blue smoke all the way home.

Took it back to Ian, he says "your metering unit has died, need a new one"

So I spent Ł50 on a new second hand one, got it fitted and carried on running in. It wa still leaking and burning oil tho. It got so bad it was caining a gallow of oil a MONTH

Took it back again. he says "back main oil seal is blown, caused by your metering unit being shit, need another one" I thought I smell a rat.

Took it to Euro at this point, they stripped it apart, tested both my new metering unit and my original one.

Neither unit was faulty, both spot on, and the SECOND back main oil seal was busted aswell - but nothing to do with the metering unit.

Reason? Instead of boring my block to 120thou and then corss hatch honing it (to make it smooth and properly round etc) another 5thou (120thou is the piston ring spec) they had bored it to 125thou and not bothered cross hatch honing it.

So naturally, the piston rings cut them selves to shit, the engine bore washed with fuel like a mofo and the crank case pressure fooked my back mains. All cos they couldn't bore and hone it properly. Both my metering units were spot on aswell.

Had Euro fit a new block and set the car up, along with a new dizzy (as min had begun sticking) Had to wait the weekend tho for new rings to come in as they needed special ones to fit the pistons SE had fitted to it. Cos that meant I was wihout my car for 3 days, Euro fitted and supplied the dizzy for free, Mark @ Euro also reprofiled my cam to a "special" spec (says it would help it rev better without it feeling like a modified one) also for free. I was then only charged Ł400 total (inc VAT and fitting) and also told to bring it back in another 1500miles so they could set it up on the analyser, again they did this for free for me (charged me for an oil change but that was Ł40 inc the oil, can't complain!)

So all in all, Ian is a cowboy and a liar - and I will NEVER ever use or reccommend him again.

 

i had same shit a thrush, good engine, went like fuck but had loads of probs and he fucked me over time and time again, the thing only went right in the end coz i tok it elsewhere......avoid em mate, go to grove instead

 

Bloody hell thats scary, you see these people advertise in every mag going and you would think they would be the top dogs........ Thank god for sites like these...
Do Euro Engines work on any kind of engine?!? As ive got a mk6 rs2000 4x4 and i want a 2.3 conversion done.

 

As far as I know Rinky, yes. I know they also do non Ford stuff (had a Pug 306 thing when I was there last) but they do specialise in Fords mostly. V6, I4, CVH, Zetec (your RS2k is I4 so your in luck - tho I have been told that the 2300 conversion is not really worth it? minimal gain vs cash outlay - could be wrong tho)

 

ill be goin with euro engines 1.9bottom end and gettin it all set up and running by grove sort(apart form the cash lol)

 

Have you spoken to Mark at Gorve? Cos thats how he told me they do it - they (Euro) build the engine and get it sorted mechanically, and then it goes to Mark and Ahmed at Grove for setting up) so either you are on the right track or he told you that Either way I reckon your gonna be impressed with it, and with the customer service chap - nice one

 

yeah i decided to do that and then guess wat euro engines recommended grove garage then i spoke to mark and he said yeah will do that we work closly with them especially wen there really busy get them to do lots of rebuilds sop fingers crossed parents will lend me money for rebuild and new pro alloy intercooler

 

Excellent choice Jamie - let us know how you get on, give us a report

What "stage" engine are you going for? (or what state of tune)

 

just keeping my up-rated turbo wit 0.48 housing, chip, having new cvh35cam, standard 1.9 bottom end all new parts ie oil pump blah blah, and re-worked head maybe stage 1 gas flowed not goin to OTT coz at mo its 200bhp so i like that at mo it has been realiable i mean the engine has been in this state of tune for 8years and the engine is still oriignal never rebuilt 119kon the clock very looked after Ł19k worth of receips and full service history, every receipt is either grove or ford, want a saff next so dont wanna go more powerful in the rs or saff wont feel to quick i can keep up wit my mtes stage 1 saff 4x4 upyo 145mph

 

Fair play THe added benefit on the 1.9 will be extra "grunt" from the torque - will feel far more "meaty"

 

sound good to me

 

your RS2k is I4 so your in luck - tho I have been told that the 2300 conversion is not really worth it? minimal gain vs cash outlay - could be wrong tho)[/quote]

Im going down the 2.3 road, as ive goto have low comp pistons put in as Janspeed are going to do a turbo conversion for me. But they wasnt to keen on doing the 2.3 conversion.
Cheers for the info about euro engines i will give them a call.

 

Rinky,

Dont turbocharge that engine mate!

 

why not?!

Its an engine... they go well turbocharged!


Alex