General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Did they use the Escort Cossie floorpan....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 24, 2005 | 03:28 AM
  #1  
MadMac's Avatar
MadMac
Thread Starter
15K+ Super Poster!!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,505
Likes: 1
From: Croydon
Default Did they use the Escort Cossie floorpan....

... in the mk6 RS2000?

Been having a chat with someone on the Escort Cabby club forum and the guy was saying he was going to Cossie a Mk6 and use the 4x4 transmission.

I told him most of the strength came from the floor so the conversion would need to be done properly. To which he replied....

hence the reason of using RS2k 4wd stuff as they dont use tunnels - it will just need a few bits relocating, exhaust moving , removal of spare wheel well etc
Which is where I went can't be right can it? If it didn't have a tunnel, where the fuck does the prop shaft go I mean this is a 4x4 escort we are talking about an not a ranger

I was always under the impression that when the sales of the Escort Cossie slumped Ford had all these cossie shells they didn't know what to do with so stuck in the cheaper RS2000 engine and floged em.
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 03:53 AM
  #2  
Ginge !'s Avatar
Ginge !
just finding my feet
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 41,052
Likes: 2
From: Im behind you
Default

hes talking out of his arse

the escos shell is actually a modded saph shell and it nothing like a escort of any kind

as for the 4x4 running gead, that dont work either as the rs2000 is transverse and the cossie engine being RWD based is inline,

the rs2000 uses a fwd system with a transfer box to drive the rear and the cossie 4x4 uses a rwd with transfer boc driving the frount

so the cossie engine will be mounted sideways with cams facing the drivers wing and not the front

as for the shells thing, when the sales slummed they already had loads of cosies being made so they sold em cheaper



a escos is a saph floorpan modded though thats why the escos are bigger than the replicas, there different cars
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 06:15 AM
  #3  
~nomad~'s Avatar
~nomad~
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,644
Likes: 1
Default

doesnt the escort cossie shell basically share nothing bar the roof with a normal escort shell?
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 07:08 AM
  #4  
georgie1's Avatar
georgie1
PassionFord Post Troll
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 12
From: ESSEX
Default

i thought the escort cossie was based on the three door sierra i know it got the running gear of a four wheel drive saph plus it seam welded not spot welded like other escorts
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 07:10 AM
  #5  
jasonp's Avatar
jasonp
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,917
Likes: 0
From: southampton
Default

having had both they arent anywhere near the same
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 07:23 AM
  #6  
NUTS RuS's Avatar
NUTS RuS
15K+ Super Poster!!
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 15,109
Likes: 0
From: Vimto Land Nr Warrington, Cheshire
Default

nothing like the same.
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 08:57 AM
  #7  
The DIVA's Avatar
The DIVA
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 8,201
Likes: 0
From: West Lancs
Default

An Escort cos is basically a short wheelbase sapph,in fact if you lift the rear of the carpet on the earlier models you can see half a grommet hole outline where the sapphire floorpans were cut and shortened(the pressing tools were changed for the later cars)...
The floorpans were then built into a 2 door escort shell at Karman in Germany(Clever blokes who are good at small model run specials).
You are fairly right in saying only the roof is original as the quarters are different(longer and slightly taller)wings,etc,etc,....all you are left with from the standard escort shell is....Roof,Inner quarters,scuttle,and Front upper panel...

Hope this helps....
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 09:55 AM
  #8  
Mike C's Avatar
Mike C
The Special One
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 10,852
Likes: 0
From: Bridgnorth
Default

RS2000 is an Escort
Esc Cos is a butchered Sierra

a million miles apart

(that's basically what the above says, but in simple terms, lol)
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 11:25 AM
  #9  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default

the cossie engine sits inline, the RS2000 4x4's engine sits transverse
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 11:57 AM
  #10  
Ginge !'s Avatar
Ginge !
just finding my feet
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 41,052
Likes: 2
From: Im behind you
Default

Originally Posted by Freddy_mercury_magic
the cossie engine sits inline, the RS2000 4x4's engine sits transverse
nice to see ya read the post radders
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 12:00 PM
  #11  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default

Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 12:39 PM
  #12  
MadMac's Avatar
MadMac
Thread Starter
15K+ Super Poster!!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,505
Likes: 1
From: Croydon
Default

So the RS2000 4x4 is nothing but a normal mk6 Escort shell? No difference from them what soever?

Interesting.
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 12:40 PM
  #13  
Azrael's Avatar
Azrael
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,343
Likes: 0
From: Warsaw, Poland
Default

Originally Posted by MadMac
So the RS2000 4x4 is nothing but a normal mk6 Escort shell? No difference from them what soever?

Interesting.
It only has different rear suspention setup and I think back of the floor is different. Just recently driven one. Handled like crap but it was typical condition Polish car
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 12:42 PM
  #14  
Kev.H's Avatar
Kev.H
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,613
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Azrael
Originally Posted by MadMac
So the RS2000 4x4 is nothing but a normal mk6 Escort shell? No difference from them what soever?

Interesting.
It only has different rear suspention setup and I think back of the floor is different. Just recently driven one. Handled like crap but it was typical condition Polish car
different rear subframe and boot floor hence why u got a space saver wheel in the 4x4 as the normal wheel is to deep to fit in the well
Reply
Old May 24, 2005 | 12:48 PM
  #15  
Azrael's Avatar
Azrael
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,343
Likes: 0
From: Warsaw, Poland
Default

I think the rear setup of 4x4 looks much more superior compared to normal Escort, very much like WRC stuff in layout.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Billy_RS
Pictures, video & Photoshop Forum
16
Oct 11, 2025 09:41 PM
Rs_Motion
Escort MK 5 / MK 6
43
Dec 27, 2018 11:49 AM
FlashRS
Cars for Sale
10
Sep 14, 2015 12:36 PM
Vincereese
Cars & Parts Wanted.
0
Aug 18, 2015 03:57 PM
stickyslick
General Car Related Discussion.
14
Aug 10, 2015 06:27 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 07:45 PM.