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Old May 7, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Go to start car.Turn key.Click!

Flat battery? I've got it on charge just now anyway...

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Old May 7, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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I just need a second opinion
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Old May 7, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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may be sticky starter ,try tapping it or rock the car in gear
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Old May 7, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Was thinking it may be something to do with the starter.So rock it in gear i'll try that,good idea matey

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Old May 8, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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if the batterys that dead it wont even attempt to turn over then put the lights on and if they are really dull then its battery....if they are as bright as ever then batts fine!

but does sound like it to me, when you unlocked it did it struggle to turn the locks?
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Old May 8, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Right,i got it started

But im confused as hell On the starter where there are two red wire's to connect,both of mine are going onto the same place,now i noticed the nut holding these on was loose when i was changing the battery so i tightened it up thinking nothing of it.Car wouldnt start so i assumed it was the battery but still wouldnt start when fully charged Just clicked once.

So i slackened off this nut and hey presto! Car start's with ease And does so every time but every 4th time or so the volts go up to 14 and the batt light goes out.Every other time the batt light is illuminated and the volts are only at 12

Please help,any ideas appreciated

Should both these red wires be going onto the one connection?
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Old May 8, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Thick wire is coming from the battery and the thinner is going to the alternator. You should then have another wire which is the ignition switch signal to trigger the starter.

The 2 power cables will be on the 13mm nut and are red. The starter trigger wire should be black with a red trace.

To be honest, it sound like you have a dodgy solenoid on the starter and by tightening the nut up, you are pulling the contacts away from each other in the solenoid and they are not making contact. However, by leaving the nut loose, you risk it falling off and also the alternator not charging because it can't get a good supply of power form the battery and burning the stud off the starter as the current arcs across from the cable to the terminal stud.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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That makes sence mate

So what do i do? New starter?Alternator?Car?

It's weird because it was going soooo well the other night,now it's dead
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Old May 8, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Oh,and thanks btw!
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Old May 8, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Starter!

Alternators usually work, or don't work. Chances are it's intermittant charging was down to the loose connection on the back of the starter.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Believe it or not i hit mine with a hammer when didnt start (the starter not the car) lol , and never had any probs after that , give the starter a tap wa the hammer hope u get it sorted stoo , really annoying these sorts of things u lose trust sometimes
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Thanks for the help lad's!

Rab:Ive tapped it with a hammer and my taps got progresively more like a thump so i stopped
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Old May 13, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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Right,well i've changed the starter and the wire to the alternator last night and now it doesnt do anything

Turn the key,fuel pump primes ect then nothing at all,no click's no bangs nothing...?

Any ideas?It seems there is no power getting to the starter now but all the wire's are tight ect
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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Is it a new starter or maybe a (too) old one?
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Old May 13, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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Dunno,i bought it from a breaker's(MFI) and it look's brand new to be honest.It's a lot more chubby than my old one.Heavy duty?
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Originally Posted by Stoo
Dunno,i bought it from a breaker's(MFI) and it look's brand new to be honest.It's a lot more chubby than my old one.Heavy duty?
Size doesn't mean anything mate.

You need a live feed on the little wire when you turn the key to the crank position (position 3) and the wire should be black with a red trace.
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Hang on...the black wire with red trace...does that go on the same place as the two red wire's...?

Im think im quickly realising where the problem is if it does!
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Originally Posted by DazC

Size doesn't mean anything mate.
Superb! I'll just tell the bird just now
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Old May 14, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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The black wire with red trace should go to the the other terminal on the starter (smaller nut i think, 10mm ish?)

It does not go to the same place as the 2 red wires!

Sort that out an dim sure it'll work fine! (provided the starter is ok that is )
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Old May 14, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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ah,thats where i have that black/red wire going onto just now
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Old May 14, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Theres ya problem then!!

Go change it and let us know if its working
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Old May 14, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Nah mate i mean i have it on the smaller terminal just now.The 2 red one's onto the bigger terminal and the red/black wire going onto the smaller terminal.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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ah

Well get a multi-meter on the red/black and see whats happening when you turn the key.....

Daz is your man for this - he'll be able to say exactly what it should be reading im sure...
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Old May 14, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Yeah cool bud i'll try that tomorrow It's got to be something simple to do with that wire.I actually put a new connection on it because i pulled it off by mistake when fitting the new one..

I'll mess about with it tomorrow Cheers!
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hi stoo,

just make sure that you have 12volts to main red wire all the time, and when your cranking the engine over (or trying to) that you have a good 12volts to that small wire , if so its the starter

but if not, that small wire goes straight to the ign switch, and just see wot your getting there, if you have power there when cranking then its a break in the wire, if no power then your ign switch has died.

ps i think that small wire changes colour at the ign switch its black and red that the starter but white and black that the ign switch (i think), because it activets other module and relays through S-120 but do worry about that bit its still a basic stright wire.

hope this helps,

let me know wot happened
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Cheer's i'll check the wires.Going down to have a look tonight
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Old May 17, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Well she live's Started first time with ease and the batt light is staying out. 14volt's

Help's if you put the wires on the right way Thats what i get for fitting it late one night half asleep

Thanks to everyone who helped!
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Glad its sorted you goon lolol
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Oi shut it ya weegie!

Anymore cheek and your banned!!Respect my authoritaaaaaay
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shite, forgot u had your power rangers helmut on
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sorted mate
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